Foxx vs Carrey isnt Durant vs PG13 Foxx in my view is more like a draymond green or scottie pippen. He was a part of some great movies, but was more often the supporting actor or part of an ensemble rather than the lead. He is clearly very talented and has a long and successful career. While his longevity and relevance clearly surpasses that of Carrey, I don't think he reached the same peak or stardom. Carrey is more like a Harden or Iverson. At his peak, he was arguably the biggest name in hollywood and was paid like it. In the late 90's early 00, Carey was one of the few to be paid 20 million or more per film as he did with the cable guy, liar liar, me myself and irene, bruce almighty and how the grinch stole christmas. While Carrey didn't achieve oscar recognition, he did achieve critical recognition in the golden globes and other major awards. More improtantly, at his peak, Carrey was "the star" of his films. He was the reason people went to watch it, the reason the film was made, if it was entertaining and succesful. Its really a question of taste and what one values in judging who's had the better career. Carrey clearly was the bigger star, bigger earner & bigger fame. Foxx on the other hand has had more critical recognition, his success has also been more consistent and longer.
You guys keep bringing The Mask and Dumb and Dumber but those are more cult classics, especially The Mask. Not many people are rating those over Ray or Django. I think if you're going to make an argument for Carrey bring up Eternal Sunshine, Truman Show.
Well, Iverson is a good comparison then. I feel like Harden might be too much but that could be Rocket bias. I guess at this point in Harden's career people will equate him to Iverson.
Pretty much all comedies can be categorized as cult classic unless like movies like Parenthood And Mrs Doubtfire they have a drama element Coming To America is one of the few pure comedies that isnt in that cult status.
That's true, because comedy is hit or miss for most people. I thought Borat was hilarious, but some people HAAATE it. It is what it is.
Well, if you keep count, Foxx still has more awards and is younger and has the major award, the one people all over the world seek. How so? I think you just don't think much of Iverson or PG13. I said the Iverson comparison is better. I just think Foxx has had the better career.
Cult movies? Both of those movies made over 250 million worldwide when those numbers meant more. Nobody is gonna rate comedies with dramas. The argument is about the better career not dramatic movies.
And that's ok but no need to belittle the career of Carrey who by any objective measurement has had more success than George in the NBA.
You're right about numbers but they still arent taken as seriously and therefore viewed as only certain people liking them even though the numbers prove otherwise
Cult movie isn't always about how many people saw the film but how many people actually like it. It's a lot more complicated than just looking at sales. The Mask I would consider a cult movie because it wasn't as critically acclaimed but also audience ratings were not that high either...but people still hang on to it as being an amazing movie. When you talk about any form of art, it's subjective, and when you come to rating art the best thing you can do is basically see what the majority of people think. It doesn't invalidate any individual opinion but its really all you can do. Also, we're not rating comedies and dramas, I agree, but we are judging their careers. Eternal Sunshine and Truman were both better received than The Mask, that's why I think if you're making an argument for Jim those would be better served for him.
I don't see how I belittled his career at all. If anything, Foxx's career has been belittled, his Oscar win diminished, his roles diminished, when he's super accomplished. I just said that Durant-PG13 because one has accomplished a lot more than the other. If you're making individual comparisons, Iverson would be a good one, I agreed with that, but an Oscar is a big deal. Even if you say, Durant vs Iverson, I think a lot of people, the majority, would pick Durant. You agreed that Foxx had the better career. Even if its slightly better, what % of people are picking prime Iverson over prime Durant?
The only film Foxx truly carried is Ray. Jim Carey damn near carries every movie. Mask has Diaz who is incredible looking in that movie. She lost weight afterwards. But i digress. Diaz is a big star but she isnt a movie carrier. That movie is all Carey. Truman Show is all Carey even with Harris As talented as Foxx he isnt in Carey's league for pure talent. Foxx dows have presence
Foxx was the star of Django too. All around Foxx has more talent, he does stand up and has a music career...well to be fair Carrey also is becoming quite the painter so I should consider that, so maybe all around talent is a scratch.
Yes but we're talking acting. Fox's career is movies. Carey range is like two other great comics, Steve Martin and Robin Williams
Carrey had a better height as a comedic actor. Foxx has a better acting career. Just did a floppy Spider-Man movie for *only* 768 worldwide BO. I think part of it is that he has aged really well and the other part is that he isn’t in scandals and have tried really hard not to be typecasted. Carrey might be morebeloved for his hits, but Foxx’s career and paycheck draw is still alive.
Carry is insane and that is awesome $2.5 billion The Canadian-American actor and comedian Jim Carrey has appeared in various feature films, television films and series, and one video game. He is one of the top-50 highest-grossing actors of all time at the North American box office, with over $2.5 billion total gross and an average of $94.3 million per film. Movies Domestic Box Office International Box Office Worldwide Box Office As an Actor Leading 20 $935,954,851 $1,009,456,232 $1,945,411,083 Supporting 10 $765,039,997 $1,153,795,076 $1,918,835,073 Lead Ensemble Member 6 $491,932,546 $656,970,929 $1,148,903,475 Inverviewee 2 $0 $0 $0 (Unclassified) 4 $47,828,946 $0 $47,828,946 In Technical Roles Executive Producer 1 $0 $0 $0 Director 1 $0 $0 $0 Screenwriter 1 I didn't add it up but it's close. But Foxx is a triple threat acting, comedy and music, Tie
