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Jim Buss says Lakers unwilling to trade both Bynum and Gasol for Dwight

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  1. jopatmc

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    http://www.latimes.com/sports/baske...es/sports/basketball/nba/lakers+(Lakers+Blog)


    By T.J. Simers

    December 24, 2011, 6:15 p.m.


    I show him the picture of the grandkids screaming and sobbing after Santa Claus tells the twins it's up to Jim Buss to bring them a Lakers' championship, and Jim Buss laughs.

    "Look at this one," Buss says pointing to the 7-Eleven Kid, who is standing there all smiles.

    Why should she be different from every other Clippers fan?

    And so it goes, the potshots flying, a guy on the radio calling him "stupid" and a blogger referring to him as an "idiot."

    After all, Scrooge is ruining the Lakers, now aren't you?

    "Wow, that's quite the punch to the gut," Buss says.

    Well, how about this? The Clippers have made the Lakers appear old and less athletic.

    And what about losing Lamar Odom, getting nothing in return and irritating Kobe? Won't it take Dwight Howard to save the franchise?

    There's no hesitation from Buss. "I think we have a championship team, and that's without making another move."

    Now the newspaper guy is telling him he's nuts.

    "I'm not as worried about this team making a run for the championship as maybe everybody else is," he says. "I know people are shook up and especially after Lamar left, but give it time."

    He's got 66 games.

    And that's possibly with a slow start, what with three straight games to open, Andrew Bynum suspended for four, some pup named Devin Ebanks to start and a new coach still teaching.

    "I don't know what our record will be during the first half, but I believe over the last 33 games going into the playoffs we will have the best record in the West."

    He must be counting on the arrival of Howard.

    But he shakes his head, no.

    "I don't understand the thinking that we need saving as a franchise," Buss says. "We have three All-Stars, and we need saving?"

    There's an Internet report suggesting Orlando was willing to trade Howard for Bynum and Pau Gasol, but now he's shaking his head as if in pain.

    "Where does this stuff come from?" he says. "You'd have to be kind of silly to give up two All-Stars like that for Howard. Zero truth to it. We have never been asked for Andrew and Pau and we've never offered them. I think they know we'd either say no or they would sound crazy for asking."

    There are some who contend Buss is so enamored with Bynum he would be blind to all trades with Bynum's name mentioned.

    "Let's just say this," he says. "You have to give up something to get something. And I'm willing to give up something to get something."

    ..........................
     
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  2. A_3PO

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    This trade would not elevate the Lakers to contender status, but it might be a good long-term move for the franchise. If they have to give up both players (and absorb Turkey-Glue from the Magic), I'm not so much against it because DH + declining Kobe + roster trash won't go far.
     
    #2 A_3PO, Dec 25, 2011
  3. coolweather

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    oh plz...... shoot me.
     
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  4. TriCkz

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    That is so rude to post the whole article.
     
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    Figured you wanted to see it in context. Hopefully you're happy now.
     
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  6. ascaptjack

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    They only gonna offer Bynum now. What can we offer Orlando which would be better?
     
    #6 ascaptjack, Dec 25, 2011
  7. jopatmc

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    I think they offer Bynum and Odom's TPE to take back salary. They can't take back Hedo but they could take back Duhon and JRich. I don't know if they still ahve the Sasha TPE available or not either. If they do, they can take back even more salary.



    We can offer a lot more young talent along with Scola and/or Martin plus more picks.
     
    #7 jopatmc, Dec 25, 2011
  8. roslolian

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    We don't have a guarantee though. I don't really want to trade half the team for only for DH to leave us for Lakerland after the season.
     
    #8 roslolian, Dec 25, 2011
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    I do, he wont leave after winning a championship.
     
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  10. delishman

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    Rocket's could facilitate this trade in the same vein as the CP3 trade. I agree Pau + Bynum is too much for D12.

    Scola + Dwight to the Lakers

    Bynum + Martin + Knicks Pick + Mavs Pick + Lakers pick

    Gasol to Houston


    That is if the Rockets would still be willing to give up Martin + Scola for Gasol w/out the promise of Nene.
     
    #10 delishman, Dec 25, 2011
  11. tofu--

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    Jim Buss is destroying the Lakers.

    I like it.
     
    #11 tofu--, Dec 25, 2011
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    I would actually like that deal, except how many more years does Gasol have as an all-star caliber player.
     
    #12 plutoblue11, Dec 25, 2011
  13. Spooner

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    Who cares? In reality, he is the same age as scola. We preserve our youth and it's not like we are getting any older. We free up a roster spot, taking care of the logjam at the two and three, while landing an MVP candidate from last year. Either way, we need to make a two for one trade. Someone of that stature would be gravy.
     
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  15. delishman

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    Methinks if the Nuggets sputter at the start they won't mind sending Nene 70 million out for expiring contracts and a young player or two.

    Too soon to call Nene+Gasol a thing of the past?


    Moooooooooooooooooorrrrrrrleeeyyy!
     
    #15 delishman, Dec 25, 2011
  16. Like A Breath

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    Andrew Bynum was Jim Buss's "project" and he seems hell bent on riding it out with him.

    I think it's a mistake. Dwight has a decade of dominance left in him and has shown no injury concerns. You do whatever it takes to get him.
     
    #16 Like A Breath, Dec 25, 2011
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    If that is true I have a feeling we have the best offer for Dwight. It comes down to us, nj, and Golden State.
     
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  18. ascaptjack

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    Huh? Goldenstate?
     
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  19. Zboy

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    I would give up Bynum + Gasol + more for Dwight.

    Bynum is injury prone.

    Gasol is soft.

    More (other than Kobe) is garbage.

    It would not make them contenders but they would once again have someone to build around. Lakers are not going anywhere by building around Bynum.
     
    #19 Zboy, Dec 25, 2011
  20. acsorelle4

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    I really don't understand all the Bynum boners. He's soft, dirty, mentally weak, not developing and he has knee surgery every year. The only admirable thing about him is that he sacrificed his future for the Lakers to win their last one by coming back from surgery too soon. I wouldn't trade any of our starters for him straight up.
     
    #20 acsorelle4, Dec 25, 2011
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