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    Jackson dismisses Founding Fathers
    By Steve Miller
    THE WASHINGTON TIMES

    EAST LANSING, Mich. — The Rev. Jesse Jackson yesterday told about 600 Michigan State University students that America's democracy was 37 years old, not 200-plus, and that "democracy as we know it did not begin in Philadelphia, where a bunch of white men wrote the laws."

    Full Story: http://www.washtimes.com/national/20020916-78725174.htm
     
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    Reparations and Jesse Jackson's 'illegitimate children'

    Posted: April 5, 2002
    1:00 a.m. Eastern

    By Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson
    © 2002 WorldNetDaily.com

    "And so, my fellow Americans: Ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country."
    —President John F. Kennedy

    Reparations for slavery, another illegitimate offspring of has-been civil rights "leader" Jesse Jackson, have hit the news.

    The fading and desperate Jackson, who for over 30 years has built a lucrative career on the backs of black Americans, has paved the way for some of his "offspring" to push for reparations, a plot that if hatched will destroy the black community and divide our whole country. Among Jackson's chief "descendants" are trial lawyer Johnnie Cochran, Harvard law professor Charles Ogletree, and Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich., who, among others, have banded together on this unholy crusade.

    Masterfully, they have performed the two tasks on Jackson's lifetime "To Do" list:

    1. Indict contemporary white America for something of which it is not guilty.
    2. Demand money, and lots of it.

    I can almost see a single tear roll down Jackson's cheek.

    For blacks who live in the most opportunity-rich country in human history to demand money for the sins of 140 years ago is absolutely shameful. For white Americans or any Americans – many of whose ancestors weren't even in this country at the time of slavery – to pay reparations is a deep injustice.

    A closer look at reparations shows it to be a divisive and evil plot. It is only the latest in a long list of ploys by the modern-day black civil rights movement to control the black community and divide the races. First of all, very few whites even owned black slaves, yet the reparations movement indicts all whites by virtue of their skin color. If this isn't racist, what is?

    Second, the debt of slavery has already been paid through a major war. For all those in failing public schools, I am referring to the Civil War, where many, many whites died so blacks could be free.

    Third, blacks benefited enormously from American slavery. I have often said that I thank God that my ancestors were taken to America in boats. Had this not happened, I could be in South Africa right now with Nelson Mandela, and really be in trouble.

    America has granted every wish of black Americans. It has made government the head of the black family; it has integrated the schools and neighborhoods; it has given blacks welfare and affirmative action; it has even apologized through Bill Clinton. There is simply nothing else that America can or should do. Blacks should feel fortunate to be citizens of this country. We are blessed, not enslaved, and those who say otherwise are enslaved only by their own hatred.

    As President Kennedy might say if he were alive today, "When will blacks seek to give back to this great land instead of seeking for ways to loot it?"

    The effect of reparations would be among the most devastating the country and the black community have ever experienced. There would be hell to pay – we would see an unparalleled backlash. Whites and blacks would be divided like never before. But you don't hear Jesse Jackson ever talk about this inevitable catastrophe – and he's supposed to be a leader with the well-being of black Americans first in his mind.

    This shows that Jackson and his "children" are not striving for blacks' well-being, but for personal gain. I don't believe for a minute that average blacks would actually get money earmarked for reparations. The money would likely go to Jackson, Cochran, many of the black preachers and others and would stay with them and their interests.

    Just as money that is given to supposedly "rebuild" black communities after they've been burned down by blacks in riots (read "justified civil uprisings" if you're Maxine "No justice, no peace!" Waters) this cash would likely be distributed no further than from these "leaders'" right pockets to their left.

    I must say that I don't believe reparations will end up being paid out. Most whites don't want to pay money for something they're not guilty of, and 30 percent of blacks have sense enough to see through this nonsense. But the very fact that we are seriously allowing this ridiculous debate is itself divisive and inflammatory.

    It is time that all Americans of goodwill stand up and say "No more!" A veil of darkness is descending upon our nation, and Jackson and his "legacy" are proponents of this evil. We must refuse to stand by and let these thugs in three-piece suits lead our country to hell.

    Unless we want to see division like never before, and the utter destruction of the black community, we must stop reparations now.

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27109
     
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    Jesse Jackson's "Civil" Rights Protection Racket
    by Paul Craig Roberts (January 24, 2001)

    Summary: You have to hand it to civil-rights leaders. They have made a much better business out of the protection racket than the old Mafia did. The Mafia was hampered by the fact that their shakedowns were seen for what they were. But Jesse's are seen as civil-rights enforcement.

    Jesse Jackson is a fraud, and so is his "civil rights" cause.

    It has come to light that the pious reverend has a mistress and an illegitimate 2-year-old daughter. This came as a shock to his wife and legitimate children, but it is the least of the reverend's shortcomings.

    Jesse has turned civil rights into a protection racket. In the old days, gangsters would call on a shopkeeper and offer him protection against damage to his store and trade. This seemed odd to the storekeeper at first, but after a brick visited his plate-glass window, he understood why he should pay protection.

    Civil-rights leaders have mastered the art of the shakedown. They sell protection to corporations and politicians. In effect, civil-rights leaders tell corporations that in exchange for contributions, they won't organize a boycott of the corporation's products or bring a civil-rights lawsuit.

    They tell politicians that in exchange for racial preferences and easy access to class-action lawsuits, they won't call the politician a racist and organize a riot in his district.

    Anyone who stands up to civil-rights leaders gets the brick through the window.

    For the most part, civil-rights leaders have found corporations and politicians easy pushovers. Public corporations model themselves on Chamberlain at Munich; they are the least confrontational of institutions.

    And politicians know that once Jesse has thrown his brick, they will never experience another press conference without a reporter asking if they beat their wife in addition to being a racist. Politicians know, too, that the powerful victims groups stick together. If blacks get on your case, the feminist, and homosexual lobbies won't be far behind.

    You have to hand it to civil-rights leaders. They have made a much better business out of the protection racket than the old Mafia did. The Mafia was hampered by the fact that their shakedowns were seen for what they were. But Jesse's are seen as civil-rights enforcement.

    The Mafiosi using muscle on the shopkeeper could, in principle, be arrested, indicted and imprisoned. But Jesse can put muscle on corporations and still be invited to White House dinners.

    What brought about the merger of civil rights and gangsters? The answer is the good intentions and confusion of white people.

    Americans believe in the Constitution, which requires equal rights for all. Most believe that it is impermissible to have one law for whites and a different law for blacks, one for the rich and another for the poor.

    Although the Supreme Court ruled that separate was not the same as unequal, many whites saw segregation as inequality and organized to overturn segregation. Good intentions gave way to confusion when integrationists lost sight of the meaning of equality. When the dismantling of segregation first began, equality meant equality in law, but as the process unfolded it came to mean equality of result.

    This changed the argument and the goal. Blacks couldn't achieve equality of result, liberals claimed, unless they were given a preferred status to go to the head of the line in college admissions, employment, training programs, promotions and government contracts.

    From this argument, it was reasoned that blacks were entitled to the same percentage of these opportunities as blacks comprised of the population. After these set-asides are granted on the basis of race, the opportunities that remain are open to competition.

    Franklin D. Roosevelt's New Deal, class warfare rhetoric, the welfare state and the redistributive, socialist leanings of many American liberals prepared the way for this transmogrification of equality in law into equality of result.

    Within months of coming to power in 1933, Adolf Hitler promulgated a law that limited Jewish students' access to institutions of higher learning to their percentage of the German population. Thanks to civil-rights leaders, we now have our own version of Hitler's Nuremberg Laws. The American civil-rights movement no longer has anything to do with equality in law. The movement has become a lobby for racial privileges for "preferred minorities."

    Equality in law is one of mankind's greatest achievements. It is the product of a thousand-year struggle of Western Civilization. The U.S. Department of Justice (sic), the corporate bastions of "white male hegemony" and the Democratic Party think so little of this achievement that they have forsaken it for law that favors some groups at the expense of others.

    http://capmag.com/article.asp?ID=162
     
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    PUSH Comes to Shove: Jesse Jackson's Empire Crumbles
    Marc Morano, CNSNews.com
    Tuesday, Jan. 15, 2002

    Just as Jesse Jackson's annual Wall Street Project Conference is about to open, longtime friends, former business associates and Wall Street observers say his financial empire appears to be headed for collapse.

    Dogged by a loss of political clout, personal scandal and concerns by some Wall Street professionals that Jackson has come across as "anti-American" after the Sept. 11 attacks, the activist's influence is diminishing in the business and civil rights community.

    http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/1/14/170935.shtml
     
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    Letter Reveals Jesse Jackson's 'Shakedown' Bid of GE, Critic Says
    By Marc Morano
    CNSNews.com Senior Staff Writer
    March 25, 2002

    CNSNews.com) - Already under a barrage of criticism for allegedly "shaking down" American corporations, Jesse Jackson this month fired off a letter to corporate giant General Electric (GE), chastising the company for not including more minority firms in its recent multi-billion dollar bond sale. Jackson also provided a list of firms he referred to as "members" of his organization.

    CNSNews.com obtained a copy of the letter, which was authenticated by a spokeswoman for Jackson's Rainbow/PUSH coalition.

    The unsigned letter, addressed to GE Chairman and CEO Jeffrey R. Immelt, was dated March 14, one day after GE's $11 billion dollar bond offering, the second largest ever by a U. S. company.

    "What concerns me is the dearth of minority banks involved in any aspect of the deal," Jackson wrote.

    In the letter, Jackson also makes evident his frustration in not being able to influence GE.

    "We have written either you or [former GE Chairman and CEO] Jack Welch several times to address the need for GE to consider minority-owned financial services firms in all aspects of your treasury operations -- from pension fund management to investment banking advisory services. We received neither the courtesy of a telephone call nor a written response," Jackson wrote.

    Jackson notes that GE's lack of a response was expected. "This action is not surprising given our history with you ... " Jackson wrote.

    His opinion about GE's commitment to minorities is also clear in the letter.

    "It is disappointing to think that GE, one of America's most innovative and respected companies, doesn't feel that any minority owned firms have the capability to be part of what will probably be one of the largest bond offerings in 2002," the letter states.

    Jackson's solution for GE is to hire companies with "relationships" to Jackson's Wall Street Project.

    "We have established relationships with several minority owned investment banks that have qualifications and expertise to deliver excellent results and value-added products," Jackson wrote. "These firms are members of our Wall Street Project Trade Bureau. I have enclosed for your review, a list of these firms."

    The Wall Street Project's aim is to promote minority participation in corporate America. The list of recommended names that Jackson enclosed was not available to CNSNews.com at press time.

    Jackson ended the letter on an optimistic tone.

    "It is my hope that you will take a leadership role within the overall business community and apply those same principles in your dealings with minority-owned financial institutions. In this respect, I look forward to speaking with you soon to schedule a meeting in which we can discuss ways to work together towards this goal," Jackson's letter states.

    It concluded, "Best regards, Reverend Jesse L. Jackson, Sr., President & Founder, Wall Street Project."

    Jackson spokeswoman, Keiana Peyton-Barrett, confirmed for CNSNews.com the authenticity of the letter. "Yes, this letter was drafted from Rev. Jackson's office," she said.

    Ken Timmerman, author of "Shakedown: Exposing the Real Jesse Jackson," a newly released book that takes a critical look at Jackson's financial empire and his political activities, called the letter to General Electric "really stunning" and evidence of yet another "shakedown" attempt by Jackson.

    Timmerman said the letter "is clear proof of Jackson's brokerage deals on behalf of a small number of his personal friends who are large contributors to his organizations."

    The book, Shakedown, is currently number three on the New York Times best seller list.

    Timmerman said the letter to GE reveals Jackson's attempts "to intimidate a major corporation with specious claims."

    Ken Boehm, chairman of the National Legal and Policy Center, praised GE for not responding to Jackson's repeated attempts to influence the $11 billion bond sale.

    "GE is doing the right thing by ignoring him. They realize that Jackson's methods of operation are increasingly being viewed by most people as unethical." Boehm's legal watchdog group filed a formal complaint regarding Jackson's finances with the IRS last year.

    A GE representative had no immediate comment regarding the letter or its claims that the company ignored minority firms in the bond sale.

    http://www.cnsnews.com/Nation/archive/200203/NAT20020325a.html
     
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    Feel better, treeman? :)
     
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    :D

    Jackson is a racist idiot. That is why he'll never be president...
     
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    No they're not. The machinery I'm speaking of includes alumni, boosters, fans, school traditions, legacies, etc. all of which can influence certain practices such as the exclusion of minorities.
     
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    That seems mostly accurate to me. One segment of the population wasn't considered totally human, and for years after were discriminated against in their right to vote. Certainly for that part of the population democracy didn't really begin until they had the right to vote. And as long as we kept one important part of the nations population out of the loop it wasn't really the best prototype for democracy.

    The only thing that I would think might contradict this view is the fact that the seeds for what was to come much later down the road were planted with the Constitution.
     
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    FB:

    I can agree to an extent, but I would say that democracy is a 2,500 year-old work in progress. I'd say that our experiment with it started over 200 years ago, not just when minorities got the vote. This is not, after all, simply a nation of minorities (yet).

    As for being the best prototype for democracy - it was certainly the best prototype in its time. It was an even better prototype after the civil rights act was passed. It has evolved, and to simply paint everything before 1965 as irrelevant certainly does a disservice to everyone who existed before then.
     
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    Oh, and did I mention that Jackson is a racist, opportunistic, corrupt, money-grubbing extortionist scumbag? That's why he'll never be President. Oh wait, different thread... ;)
     
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    When I said best prototype, I didn't mean comparitively. I meant the best that it could be. I do agree it's a work in progress which is why I said that seeds were planted in Phily.

    But for some people in the country democracy really didn't begin 200 plus years ago.
     
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    How do you know race isn't a factor? Overall it's obviously been a factor since there are quite few black head coaches. You really think it's just strangely worked out that way? There are two sides to your "problem". "The problem is that every time a black coach doesn't get the job, it's not viewed as a racist decision. That can't be the case, can it?"

    Then here we have treeman derailing this thread with a bunch of crap about Jesse Jackson without even touching the topic. Apparently the hatred for Jesse Jackson really does alter the basic sense of reality and fairness in America. I mean if Jesse Jackson said the universe was big we'd have treeman here talking about Hymietown and Budweiser trying to discredit Jackson's blantantly obvious observation. Not one of you has contested or debunked his statement in this article so please someone go ahead and explain why it's incorrect. I'd really like to hear that instead of the usual tap dancing and name calling routine that has become the typical response to civil rights issues in America today. If people like treeman were half as concerned with civil rights as they are with Jackson's personal life then we'd probably be seeing a lot more progress in this country.

    "The SEC maintains a culture of excluding blacks beyond the playing field," Jackson said in a statement. "White players, beyond the playing field, can expect to become coaches, athletic directors and college presidents. Blacks have no life beyond the playing field."
     
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    Is it the best it can be now? I think not.

    The only way to realistically judge it is comparatively. Otherwise you're just comparing it to a subjective ideal, which it will always fall short of.

    Jackson is dismissing the accomplishments, strifes, and battles of ten generations of Americans as insignificant. He is an ass for doing so.
     
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    #weee-wee-wee---we-weee-weee-weee-----wee-weee-weeeeeeeeeeeee----wee-wee-weee-wee-we-weeeeeeeee#

    (Note: The preceeding was the world's smallest violin playing a rendition of "Nobody gives a sh*t" in response to Timing's babbling about white racism, and his failure to see Jesse Jackson for what he is)
     
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    I heard that! I have moved on to other things; however, I am impressed, tree, with 11 posts in 9 minutes! I don't think that I could even top that!;)
     
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    You've simply reinforced what I just said but I'm impressed you could do it in such a childish manner. Maybe you and Manny should get some banjo lessons and run a bait store together. Just a thought, kick it around fellas.
     
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