Jesse Jackson Not Happy With Alabama's Coach Selection

Why in the hell is this news? Who cares what Jesse Jackson thinks about anything?? He is an adulterous, thieving, grandstanding a-hole who deserves to be ignored, and put into the trashbin of history.

Doesn't anybody care that Jackson stole money from his supporters, under the guise of "fighting racism", and gave it to his girlfriend in an attempt to keep her quiet? I find it maddening that the AP ignores Jackson's crimes, but shows up every time Jackson wants free publicity.

 

So until you actually *debate* my argument that Alabama is not a good situation for the first minority SEC coach to come into because of the probation, then there is nothing left to say to you in this thread.

This is silly. I'm not going to criticize an individual hiring decision because its purely subjective, but somehow saying that this is a "bad" job for a minority is ridiculous. If he's the best guy for the job, he should be given the offer - period. If there's a good chance of failure, that should be the choice of the individual coach to deal with. He can always say no if he wants. To say someone shouldn't get the opportunity because he might fail is silly.

That's like saying we shouldn't try to start educating black students in a poor neighborhood because they are likely to still fail and that will make them look bad. The alternative of not giving them/him a chance is even worse.

I know nothing about either of these two guys, but why is this news anyway? Is Croom some super-coach who is unquestionably superior to Shula? I think you can show patterns of racism in large samples (such as the entire SEC's history), but saying its the reason a particular coach wasn't hired is ludicrous.

 

Why does anyone still care what Jesse thinks about anything? If people stopped caring, then the Rainbow Coalition wouldn't be able to extort or blackmail anyone anymore.

He is, however, a glaring example of how racism still lives in America.

 

I've done no such thing. One cannot judge this based on one hiring but when a distinct pattern emerges over a period of many years the picture becomes quite clear. It's no odd coincidence that there have been no black head coaches at Alabama or in the entire SEC.

 

The difference is that we don't use race as a mitigating factor in the hiring of white coaches. They're right or wrong based on their experience and qualifications, not on their skin color or ethnicity.

 

Originally posted by Manny Ramirez
Timing,

No one here (as far as I know) is arguing with you on the fact that the SEC needs to hire a minority coach. I even said at the end of my second post, that a minority coach should have already been hired by now to coach at an SEC school. However, you have yet to address why the situation at Alabama would be a good one for the first minority coach in the SEC to step into. I along with giddyup feel that is a situation conducive to failure because of probation. I have yet to hear what your feelings are about it because you keep bringing things up that people agree with.

So until you actually *debate* my argument that Alabama is not a good situation for the first minority SEC coach to come into because of the probation, then there is nothing left to say to you in this thread.


It's an insulting and condescending argument that shouldn't be taken seriously at all. You don't even seem to understand what's wrong with your "argument". When you're denied a job because someone doesn't think it's the right time to hire a white person maybe then you'll understand. And no I'm not insinuating that's what happened to Croom here, I'm simply responding to your statement. There needs to be an entire paradigm shift in this country from the majority to realize equality in this country because it's clear that too many people like yourself still don't get it.


I am going to bookmark that quote because I don't believe that you truly mean that.

You do that.

 

Regardless of what your opinion of Rev. Jackson is, the man is a champion of Civil Rights in this country. He has fought to make this nation a better place for minorities, and for that he will always be remembered. The man may have made some poor decisions which have lessened his credibility, but he has also helped thousands of minorities in this country with his philanthropy.

 

I find it amazing that you would proclaim an American citizen guilty of something when he's never been found guilty of it in a court of law.

I thin Jackson has done some things wrong, but he's also done some things right. U.S. military prisoners that Reagan and others couldn't get released were able to be freed by Jesse Jackson. Now people like to bring up his extra marital affairs, and I agree that's nothing to be praised. But somehow when Dan Burton, Henry Hyde, Newt Gingrich, Robert Barr, and however many other Republicans are doing it, then it's all part of their personal life, they are over that stage etc.

I would propose that neither side of the political aisle keep criticizing others for those kinds of personal mistakes, because it's a lose-lose situation.

 

There is a difference between having a process that includes opportunity for all and one that guarantees results for a specific group of people.

It is very troubling that some people out there are coming from the mindset that if Alabama didn't hire Sylvester Croom that it means they are, de facto, racist.

Frankly, if Alabama thought that a little green man named Guar from Mars would win them 10 games a season, they would hire said little green man.

Race has nothing to do with this.

Are we supposed to assume from now on that any time a white guy gets a job that the individual doing the hiring is inherently a biggot? That's absurd.

 

The guy insists on being called The REVERAND Jesse Jackson. I don't think it is out-of-line to expect more. Did OJ do it?

 

Here's what you wrote: <b>"I'm not going to tell you any one administration is racist</b>. That's impossible to tell. What's easy to tell is the record of hiring and the history at Alabama, the SEC, and in college football coaching in general which all have a pattern of racism. Until this changes, Jesse Jackson and whoever else should continue pressuring these bastions of 1950's America. I mean we have people in this thread talking about Jesse Jackson rather than stating their scorn for <b>the machinery at these schools that maintains a racial agenda</b>. It's amazing."

Are those remarks in bold not contradictory?

 

The problem is that everytime a black coach <b>doesn't</b> get the job, it is viewed as a racist decision. That can't be the case, can it?

 

I'm not going to defend anyone for extra marital affairs. But if he's a reverend he's still a reverend. If I were him I would have taken a leave of absence and dealt with it more than Jackson did.

As far as the evidence against OJ and the evidence against Jackson there isn't even a comparison.

 

You are completely ignorant of the situation, but I don't blame you- the press in general is scared of Jackson.

He was using his foundation's money to pay his girlfriend and amount of money that was illegal according to IRS guidelines.

Also, do some research, and find out why Coretta Scott King despises Jackson. It is a real eye opener.

 

I'm not ignorant and I've heard all about Jackson's trouble with the IRS. I'm waiting for the courts to convict before I declare him guilty of stealing.

I never said Jackson was my favorite guy, but I will say he's done some admirable things. Tell the rescued prisoners he's gotten released that you would rather have not had him interfere on their behalf.

Coretta Scott King hates Jesse Jackson so much that she wrote the introduction to the biography titled 'Jesse Jackson'.
http://www.addall.com/Browse/Info/B...Color--156/JACKSON,_JESSE,_1941--Child--30826

She despises Jesse so much that he consulted her in regards to his 'Barbershop' campaign?
http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/news/92302_nw_barbershop.html

Some report that Coretta Scott King was upset with Jackson's version of the facts when MLK was killed, but I wouldn't blow that up too much given these other instances of them working together. It really is true that only selective things get through to you.

 

Dollars to donuts there's more conclusive hard evidence against Jackson. It just has to come to trial. I'm not saying that OJ is innocent!

 

Boycott targets gave to Jackson
By Steve Miller
THE WASHINGTON TIMES

The Rev. Jesse Jackson's newly released tax forms for 2000 reveal that his top donors that year were a who's who of companies that had been threatened with boycotts or other sanctions by Mr. Jackson.

The forms also show that Mr. Jackson's Citizenship Education Fund, his primary tax-exempt group, accepted a $50,000 donation from Kevin Ingram, a convicted criminal and the former head of the mortgage-backed securities desks at Goldman Sachs and Deutsche Bank.

Ingram — friends with Mr. Jackson for several years — last year pleaded guilty to federal money-laundering charges related to Pakistani arms deals. He is in federal prison.

The coffers of the two principal economic engines for Mr. Jackson remained full in 2000, as donations from corporate America flowed freely, the forms show.

The Citizenship Education Fund had $9,262,846 in revenue in 2000, according to the tax forms, a $600,000 decline from the previous year. The Rainbow/PUSH Coalition, which is tax-exempt in its home state of Illinois but does not have a federal exemption, saw a $300,000 increase in revenue in 2000.

Tax forms for fiscal 2001 are due in June.

Mr. Jackson's Wall Street Project, aimed at securing employment for minorities, received $4.5 million in 2000 from the education fund.

His contributors for 2000 include many firms that have had business dealings with Mr. Jackson in the past. Viacom, Bell Atlantic and GTE all gave to Mr. Jackson in 2000, and all have been threatened with boycotts or other sanctions by him.

Blaylock & Partners, which received a $750,000 account from AT&T at Mr. Jackson's behest, donated $30,000 to the education fund in 2000. AT&T contributed $425,000.
SBC Communications, which solicited and received the support of Mr. Jackson for its merger with Ameritech, contributed $500,000.

The New York Stock Exchange, which Mr. Jackson has accused of "redlining" minorities, donated $194,634.

Mr. Jackson's office did not return repeated phone calls.

Targets of Jackson boycott threats such as Toyota and SBC Communications have denied any quid pro quo in their subsequent donations.

The civil rights activist is 60 years old, and his organizations continue to incur financial setbacks, requiring a change in accounting practices and a stepped-up effort to collect membership dues in his trade groups.

Earlier this year, Mr. Jackson laid off up to 50 employees from his top three organizations in Chicago. His chief financial officer, Billy Owens, and Emma Chappell, executive director of Mr. Jackson's Wall Street Project, also have departed.

Mr. Jackson is emboldened by a following that accepts his shortcomings, said Mark Thompson, a radio talk-show host on the District's WOL-AM.

"Jesse Jackson is still a very articulate spokesman for the African-American community," Mr. Thompson said. "When it comes to the everyday issues that we face, he is the man who has fought for people."

Mr. Jackson's critics use the apparent quid pro quo business dealings as "grist for the mill," Mr. Thompson said.

"But among his followers, there may be some concerns and some doubts, but people are willing to hold their noses and still be supportive of him and his service to the community."

Mr. Jackson, who earns about $500,000 annually, has repeatedly accused his detractors of having political motivations.

"Jesse Jackson is still telling people that the Republicans are targeting his supporters," an estranged colleague said this week of Mr. Jackson's financial situation.

"He has continued to decline this year, after seeing his revenue fall off last year," he said on the condition of anonymity. "His revenues are down — real big. He has these associates who have gotten into all this trouble. And it is still the Republicans' fault."
Mr. Jackson warned a black crowd last year that "we are in danger because of the right wing."

"The right wing has seized government. Watch out in coming days of the right-wing media, the FBI, the IRS, targeting our leadership," he told an audience at November's State of the Black World Conference in Atlanta.

But many of Mr. Jackson's associates have found trouble on their own.

Miss Chappell, who is founder of the United Bank of Philadelphia, was sued by the bank two years ago and accused of misconduct and fraud. In a confidential agreement to settle the suit, Miss Chappell gave up her seat on the bank's board of directors.

Mr. Jackson, though, has relentlessly pushed his agenda. In a column last week, he insisted that President Bush is "systematically weakening the laws and regulation on clean air, clean water, toxic wastes, workplace safety, civil rights and equal protection."

"If they understood what was coming down, the vast majority of Americans — whether white, black or brown, conservative or liberal, Democrat or Republican — would oppose this president's assault on the protections and resources we need to meet the challenges we face," Mr. Jackson wrote in a column published on the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition Web site.

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20020417-69674174.htm

 

Jesse Jackson's Skeleton Closet

Click on the allegation of your choice:
- Adultery and b*stard child
- Anti-semitic remarks ("Hymietown")
- All talk, no action
- Son is involved with heroin dealers

http://www.realchange.org/jackson.htm

 

September 25, 2002 9:00 a.m.
Who Needs Jesse Jackson?
A declaration of independence.

Having solved all the problems of black America, Jesse Jackson is now turning his stern, lidless gaze to the grave matter of Barbershop the No. 1 film in America. It is an entertaining, amusing, and morally uplifting comedy about black people. It was written, directed, and produced by black people, and stars an all-black cast, save for one character, a white guy who wants to be black. There is no gun violence, or lurid sexuality, or excessive filthy language sullying the movie. You'd think if Jesse were to protest Barbershop, it would be over the fact that there aren't more movies like it.

So why does Jesse hate Barbershop? Why is he demanding that MGM, the distributor, censor the film? Because it features black people saying things of which Jesse Jackson does not approve.

Full Story: http://www.nationalreview.com/dreher/dreher092502.asp