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Jeremy Lin's upside

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by meh, Jul 20, 2012.

  1. TEXNIFICENT

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    Nothing wrong with that.
     
  2. Mr. Clutch

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    Nope considering his salary is in that range.
     
  3. roxxy

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    I am not bashing Brown. But I know Browns motivations. He said what he said because he has a bias towards Felton from back in the day and also because Brown and Woodson are good friends. That is really what it is. Not saying that you can't have an opinion, but when your opinion is blatantly biased people will give you cut eye.
     
  4. Mr. Clutch

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    That's the problem though.

    He's old and forgetting stuff.
     
  5. Easy

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    I don't agree with leebigez. But I respect him for sticking his neck out for his opinion.

    After playing as starter for a full season, he'll either say, "I told you so" or some will quote him from this thread and ridicule him. We'll see.

    I personally think he and Dragic will be on about the same level, which is above average starting PG, kind of where Lowry was before his illness.
     
  6. roxxy

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    Lol. Hubbie Brown is old. He supports Lin. That argument can go both ways.
     
  7. zdrav

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    Exactly. At every stage of Lin's basketball career, he has done well, yet people keep expect him to play down to "his level".

    It's kind of like the opposite of what's happening with Fernando Torres. He's been sucking for years now, yet people still expect him to rise up to his glorious past despite the fact that he's getting older and more worn down.
     
  8. plutoblue11

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    Again, I don't agree with the heightened expectations of Linsanity, or believe he's going to revolutionize the point guard position.

    On the other hand, please do not compare him to Tebow, outside of the cultural relevance factor, as I don't believe Tebow will be what constitutes to a good to fantastic NFL QB.

    When it comes to Lin's criticisms, we need to keep in mind that he's essentially a first or second year point guard. Also, be mindful of the fact that his 25 starts, this season were first fray as a point guard. For a first or second year point guard, he performed wonderfully as anyone could. It's weird how point guards are treated as if they won't improve, even though it might be arguably the toughest position in the sport, along with center.

    Outside of the Big Os or Magic Johnsons of the world, you rarely going to see a point guard play like a superstar or flawlessly. As with any other young point guard, Lin comes with a few flaws, but the higher end abilities cannot be denied. He's got two things that many point guards tend to lack -- court vision and unselfishness. For some reason, alot of young point guards often never possess that, especially when they have exceptional scoring ability or athleticism.

    Though in Lin's case, I honestly believe his best assets are in scoring ability and creativity with the basketball. He's not flashy as some (though he has a little flash in him), but he's got a great bag of go-to moves. He's not going to be dunking from the 13 feet out. Honestly, I see better than average or even mild starting point guard.
     
  9. TEXNIFICENT

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    Lol! I've been knowing leebigez for over 20 years and TRUST ME a lot of people have disagreed with him over the years. But if he says something about hoops its because he believes it, right or wrong. But Lin will have his day on the court and I hope he handles his business. I just want the Rox to win. no matter who's leading the charge.
     
  10. Vpballa916

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    i genuinely believe that the Rockets are going to be able to see the Jeremy Lin, pre-Melo and pre-Woodson.

    Which is GREAT for Houston.

    Having Jeremy pigeon-holed behind Melo and Amar'e would have stymied his growth as a young player.

    Jeremy has shown the kahonas to be an inspiring leader on a good team.

    I just hope that Morey surrounds Lin with a legitimate roster in order to prevent the Rockets from playing themselves into a losing culture.

    The best has yet to come for Jeremy, and i'm excited for him and for Houston.
     
  11. Outlier

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    Jeremy Lin will never be fast enough, strong enough, obviously not lengthy enough (to be a terror on D), he will never have that physical advantage. He will also not have the handles of elite ball handlers. What he is good at however, is being a great floor general. He communicates with his teammates effectively and knows where they should be most times on the court. He can also make clutch 3's. This is why I think he's comparable to Billups.
     
  12. devin23

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    This.
     
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    Lin
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    Asik ehh
     
  14. Vpballa916

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    he's clutch, in general.

    That speaks high volumes as to how highly he thinks of himself. When you have a champion like Tyson Chandler believing in you, you know you've got something special.
     
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    Chris Paul, $17.79 million
    Deron Williams, avg $20 million
    Derrick Rose, $15.5 million
    Russell Westbrook, $12.9 million
    Tony Parker, $12.5 million
    Rajon Rondo, $11 million
    Jose Calderon, $10.5 million
    Steve Nash, $9 million
    Rodney Stuckey, $8.5 million
    Goran Dragic, $8.5 million
    Devin Harris, $8.5 million
    George Hill, $8 million
    Mike Conley, $7.3 million
    Kyle Lowry, $5.8 million
    Jarrett Jack, $5.4 million
    Andre Miller, $5 million
    Luke Ridnour, $4 million
    Ray Felton, $3.3 million
     
  16. Vpballa916

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    i changed the channel when T-Mac had his career highlight.

    i switched back over and saw all the Rockets players mobbing him.

    i was kicking myself pretty good for giving up on that game.

    I robbed myself, but thank goodness for Youtube.
     
  17. Fullcourt

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    At least it beats

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  18. roxxy

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    I think the most underrated part of his game is his speed, strength and athleticism to be honest. Many people have said that Dirk N. being one of them who openly said that he is a lot more athletic than people give him credit for. Howard beck and Morey even said that is the most underrated part of his game. I think subconsciously people stereotype him (not saying you are doing that). But it is what it is. His combine numbers are equivalent to Rose, Kyrie and Wall I believe. Also ball handles can improve, and I do think that Lin can be a better floor general. He is pretty good but he could be a lot better.
     
  19. jasonemilio

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    People act like he ain't got the quicks/speed or athleticism to be atleast be a borderline all star. He has very good short area quickness and long strides to get into the lane , and along with his size, makes him a very good ISO/attacking the basket guard.

    Now, he doesn't have ELITE ups and explosiveness, but really, you don't need that to be a very good PG or player, or even be elite. The thing will prob keep him from being anything above an All Star is :

    1) There are already so many other elite PGs that are clearly better than him a la Deron W., CP3, Westbrook, etc.

    2) He is still very much a tweener, a la Westbrook and a young Tony Parker. Hence some of the TOs (which I think has been ignorantly used as a scapegoat argument). He is reacting on some of his passes rather than diagnosing and creating passes for his teammates. And hence also times when he goes into the lane, gets clogged up, and because he doesn't have the ubber explosiveness of guys like Westbrook to simply explode to and over guys from 5 ft out, he gets stuck-and either runs into guys or turn the ball over.

    That being said, I think simply using the argument that "oh , there's a reason he wasn't offered a scholly or drafted" against him being anything more than a backup or average starter is questionable. Simply cause the kid was either stereotyped and underestimated (and coming from a guy stubbornly against using the race card) and has steadily proved everyone wrong every where and getting better in ways no one could imagine.

    Just see the jump he took from HS to college, and then from his "rookie" season to his amazing "sophomore" season.

    Likewise, some of his Asian fanboys (and before yall yell racist, I'm asian too) latch on to him like the next Yellow Hope, and thinks he can do no wrong.
     
  20. roxxy

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    What do you mean by tweener? Just curious. He is bigger than Parker and Russell. He was 200lbs, none of those guys even weight 200?
     

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