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Jeremy Lin's upside

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by meh, Jul 20, 2012.

  1. Old Man Rock

    Old Man Rock Contributing Member

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    Did you ever hear of a guy named Hakeem. Olajuwon's best 4 seasons followed his 30th birthday. You can say you are a student of the game but you better keep studying is all I can say.
     
  2. Honeybager81

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    oh, man, man, man... you are so old, your memory must be degenerating...
    Do you know who Steve Nash is? When did he win NBA MVPs? How old was he when that happened.
     
  3. RedJinx

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    Jms99 is correct on the peak age

    http://basketballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=399

    Since it is a large sample statistic of nba players, mostly black, maybe that's why Nash does not fall into the statistic... And also maybe this stat doesn't apply to Jeremy since he is asian...lol
     
  4. Honeybager81

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    the fact is he could not recall a single player...
    and he has been studying this game for 5 decades?... smh
     
  5. Liberon

    Liberon Rookie

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    I don't care what JMS99 thinks. Lebron, Kobe, Jordan, and the list goes on did not peak at 23-24.
     
  6. Panda23

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    Why is everyone so keen to put the clamps on Lin's development? Afraid more anonymous internet users are gonna say he's the next Tony Parker?

    He's a solid PG who will only get better if he learns to curtail some of his glaring weaknesses.
     
  7. saleem

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    I think he can get better, and feel he will improve. I wish he was as good as Tony Parker,but I don't think he is as talented as him.
     
  8. RedJinx

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    JMS99's conclusion is wrong, but the stats weren't his stats. Just because you have information, it doesn't mean you know how to use it...

    Those players(kobe, jordan lbj) are exceptional players. The average peak stat was applied to average occurrences. You cannot use the exception to say that it is the normal occurrences.

    Will historical average stats apply to Jeremy? Hard to tell, he is an anomaly. People assume he won't succeed in the NBA because the past stats didn't show any asians could play in the NBA.

    Is Jeremy the norm or the exception?

    One thing for sure, he generally proves the standard statistical analysis used against him to be wrong.

    Isn't he a man that defies the odds?

    Too early to tell but an anomaly is interesting.
     
  9. jeddah

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    This! I don't know why people are quick to conclude that JLin won't improve over time...it's easy for them to say that Bev/Parsons/Harden/Howard or any other players not named Lin will improve if given just enough time to hone their craft BUT for Lin it is simply impossible...SMH
     
  10. rockets2012

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    Lin is literally playing SG, so he's sacrificing a lot to help the team.
     
  11. Tenchi

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    Not sure if this question was asked/answered already but how many "stars" in the league were undrafted and how was their growth compared to Lin's. Seems like most people are basing him off of a contract that Morey gave him which is somewhat fair but even Morey said he was gambling at the moment. Others seem to not like him because the Rockets could have gotten Dragic for the same price but how would Dragic fare in this system? Also it seems like Dragic was a 5th year player by the time he came to the Rockets? Most fans said he was a flash in the pan for this performance against the Spurs in the playoffs. It seems like this season, his 7th, he's finally got everything put together. Through all those years he's been a starter for a season and a half. Hindsight allows people to say that Dragic is awesome, but he had a lot of questions about him when Phoenix traded him for Aaron Brooks. Let Lin learn the game. It's his fourth season and he has had to adjust him game many times.
     
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  13. JBar

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    I agree that Lin is anomaly, is sacrificing his game a bit because of the personnel here, has performed at a high level in spurts, and so on and so forth. But on the other hand, his game is very dependent on athleticism (his quick first step), and that doesn't bode well for a long career. My thinking was changing when he was shooting so well from outside early this season, but now that he's regressed to the mean, my opinion has reverted too.
     
  14. Tenchi

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    It's not like his shooting can improve later though. Take Kyle Lowry for instance.
     
  15. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    I personally think Lin will improve. Kid works too hard not to. The question however is, how much? This is usually what starts arguments because you have one side who feels Jeremy Lin isn't a good PG and probably won't get too much better and then you have the other side who keeps dreaming that he will develop into a superstar.
     
  16. WinkFan

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    Dragic came to the Rockets in his 3rd season. His 4th season when he was 25, he put up similar raw numbers to Lin, although some of his advanced metrics were better. Dragic is now in his 6th season.
     
  17. Honeybager81

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    true, Lin is not crafty enough, particularly his handles.
     
  18. Tenchi

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    Yeah I wasn't sure when Dragic was drafted. I was probably lumping his Euro experience in. Now that I've actually checked it seems like he's been playing pro ball since he was 17.
     
  19. rockets2012

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    Dragic was once a joke before traded to Houston. Suns had to include a first rounder to get rid of him.
     
  20. flamingdts

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    That is just not true at all.
     

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