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Jeremy Lin's upside

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by meh, Jul 20, 2012.

  1. Honeybager81

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    Lin is a popular player, people discuss his games, know his stats, very normal...
    I knew all the facts he wrote, only haters are just blindly hating...
    by the way, before this season, the ESPN nba ranked NBA players (1-500), Lin's ranking was a few positions higher than Dragic, so what's the surprise...
    Dragic has a tremendous season though, he is a very good player finally in the right system for him, he shines...
     
  2. Honeybager81

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    i admire your patience arguing with people who have no comprehension abilities.
     
  3. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    What I was trying to say and probably said it poorly is that Nash had always been fairly consistent. He was a consistently good shooter, consistently good off the ball, and consistently bad on D. You could tell Nash would be good one day. Lin is often all over the place. One instance, he looks like he is scratching Linsanity and the next, he looks like a D-League candidate. Can Lin still have a chance to become good? Yeah, sure, but each year that passes puts another nail in the coffin so to speak. For every Nash that is a late bloomer, you have countless of others that just stay mediocre.
     
  4. AvgJoe

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    A lot of people's points on this board are legit. I just disagree with some of the opinions. Outside of a few trolls, people are generally discussing matters with good intentions for the team. It's good to hear both sides of the arguments because often truth lies somewhere in between.
     
  5. chenjy9

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    Also, I would take 4th year Nash over any year Lin at any given chance. I would love to have a 40% 3PT shooter playing off Harden and Howard.
     
  6. chenjy9

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    On that note, I believe Lin's upside is a 13/7 player where he is starting on a contending team if he is starting opposite of an ace and probably 17/5 on a scrub team.
     
  7. AvgJoe

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    I don't remember too much about Nash's performance during his earlier days, but I don't think people could tell Nash would be that good, or he would not be traded in his 2nd year and 4th year. The GMs themselves were the doubters themselves.

    Lin is inconsistent, but he has high ceiling. It's hard to judge this season because he's been in and out of the line ups. Used differently (staring PG, starting SG, backup PG/SG). I'm pretty convinced that some of inconsistent games were due to his injuries. As the moment he claimed his back felt good, he started performing good.

    Lin may not be and probably not ever going to be as good of a shooter as Nash, but he's better attacker to the rim than Nash, and probably a better defender. He shined under MDA, so did Nash, because both need ball in hand and run PnR to be effective. Due to the similarities, I'm not ruling out Lin's future just yet.
     
  8. Panda23

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    Beverley has been shooting around 40% from 3 since his injury IIRC and he isn't an absolute sieve defensively like Nash.
     
  9. AvgJoe

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    Offensively yes. Defensively I will take Lin over Nash. But overall yes, 4th year Nash would fit better alongside Harden. Though we would need to replace Parsons with someone has better D.
     
  10. chenjy9

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    I fully expect Beverley's 3PT to fall back towards Earth as the season progresses unless he has a Lowry type improvement.
     
  11. AvgJoe

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    I think it's probably swapped with 13/5 and 17/7 (maybe more defending how scrab the team is).

    A contending team would not require Lin to handle too much ball, but probably still more than Rockets though.

    Lin's ability to make teammates good is why I think on a scrab team he would have a lot more ASTs. I think Lin had the potential to be John Wall like, but not sure if he could actually reach where John Wall is today.
     
  12. AvgJoe

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    Bev's 3PT is as Linconsistent as it gets. Game to game variation is probably huge. He can make 4 or 5 3s in one game with 80% shooting, then miss 5 and 6 the next. But his D is consistent (exclude the last game).
     
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    I think the Lakers thought the same last year. In fact, I thought the same too. I thought Nash would be able to fit better than Dwight with the Lakers because of his shooting.

    The dilemma with Nash playing with a ball dominant wing is, do you want his shooting or do you want his passing? If you want the latter, you will have to take the ball out of that ball dominant wing guy. The Lakers (Kobe) wanted the former. And it didn't work out very well. I guess after all these years as the facilitator, you can't retrain the old dog to be an off the ball shooter.

    *I know this has nothing to do with Lin. Sorry for going off topic. Not my fault. You guys are talking about Nash. :p
     
  14. chenjy9

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    We are talking about 4th year Nash who was really more of a shooter and off ball player, not old Nash who can barely do anything. :grin:
     
  15. Panda23

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    ill give him a bit more time haha.
     
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    Hope he'll show up against the Heat!
     
  17. WinkFan

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    Good point. We should look at the 1 in a 100 who pans out, and ignore the 99 who don't.

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    He's around 15/6 per 36 minutes this year already so I think his ceiling is higher than that.
     
  19. DaDakota

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    Anyone with a brain knew Dragic was a lot better player.

    DD
     
  20. chenjy9

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    Maybe... with Lin, it's really hard to tell considering how much variance is in his performance from game to game.
     

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