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Jeremy Lin's upside

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by meh, Jul 20, 2012.

  1. aurocketfan

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    Kenny gives Lin credit.
     
  2. JLFan

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    Jeremy Lin looks like he would enjoy being a Bull, big market great teamwork no selfish isos and everyone plays at a great intensity. Rockets need to get that back, especially away from court or else the 3rd seed may end up a 6 or lower.
     
  3. Terry Teagle

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    Jeremy has a solid left hand like Harden has a solid right hand.
     
  4. AvgJoe

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    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/A7HVfpcnEWM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    at 2:39

    or

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=A7HVfpcnEWM#t=159

    left hand is solid, not amazing, but solid
     
  5. Play07

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    Lin is above average p&r PG with good court vision. He can be the second scoring option on a playoff team.

    He would do his best in an offense that runs p&r often bigs that can pick & pop & good finishers on fast breaks. Bulls, nets, pacers, grizzlies, timberwolves, mavs he would be a 17-8 player easily.
     
  6. Old Man Rock

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    There is nothing easy about being a 17 and 8 player. I am a lin fan but let's keep it real on his side even if his detractors aren't. Defenses try to stop you every game. The better you are the more get up for it. If Lin starts busting out more, more focus will be on him. Not saying he can't do it. Just saying it wouldn't be easy.

    Also Lin can be a 20 and 8 guy on a bad team if he is the first option. I disagree with those who say he can't lead or start on a championship team. Of course he can. But he will never be the first or even the second option on a championship team. Third at best.
     
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    Fixed :grin:

    Never say never. Always be positive like this guy:

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  8. Play07

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    I agree to sum it up let's say he could be a (parsons 3rd option) where parsons is still 2nd option plenty of nights.. 17-8 on a deep playoff team can happen. He could still be a solid 2nd option say on a team like bulls now or pacers now with PG being 1st (Lin & west being 2nd) he can can be solid 2nd option with another 2nd option player, if you get what I'm trying to say. He can step up and be that 2nd option on certain nights.

    Yes 20-8 guy on a non playoff team like lakers easy, and I feel the same way about people saying he could on do good on a lotto team that's BS.

    The thing is he will always be a better player on p&r teams which most teams are way more than rockets
     
  9. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    For Lin to find a team to succeed on, it has to be a team where he is the primary ball handler on a PnR team. This means the following conditions have to be met first:

    - Team does not have a ball dominant wing star (Harden, Melo, Kobe, ect)
    - Team plays a PnR heavy offense with a big that can set a hard pick, roll hard to the rim, and most importantly, finish hard
    - Team is desperate enough to rely on Lin as a primary or even secondary option. Think about all the teams that would have given Lin that opportunity and what state they were in.

    If Lin does find a team that meets those conditions, he may develop into a 18/8 sort of player. I highly doubt that will ever be a contending team though as you simply don't build teams around non-star PG's currently with how the game is. It is also further stacked against him considering he plays in one of the most bountiful positions in the league.
     
  10. TheJet

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    There's that word again. I think most people agree it could happen in ideal conditions but it's not a guaranteed, easy, "bank it" deal. 20pts a game for an entire season is no joke. That normally puts you in the top 20-15 of scorers.
     
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    I hope the last two games would make DWH rethink about his lowpost scoring, and set more picks for teammates. There's still a chance Lin/Howard PNR could work, but the clock is ticking.
     
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    just curious (and i really have no idea), but where do you think the current team would be if instead of harden, we have a 45% 3pt shooter at SG, and an all start at PF, such as LMA? so with a lineup of howard, LMA, Parsons, shooter, and lin? i have no idea but on paper, it's an offense that would be difficult to stop.
     
  13. Fighton

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    forgot to add, but this would be the type of team that lin would do well on. and nowadays, you don't necessarily need to built a team around a star PG. just someone that can get the offense moving and be a threat himself. lin is more then adequate for that.
     
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    I think that Lin would be a lot better on a team like the Blazers than he has been on the Rockets and in regards to your follow up post, I still don't think it matters much. Here is the thing, for Lin to develop the way HE and his fans want him to, he needs to be the one controlling the offense. Unless you have off the ball stars, that's not going to happen unless Lin joins a scrub team since most contending team has an established PG or a ball dominant wing.
     
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    For the record, I feel like if the T-Wolves ever lose/trade Rubio before Love/K-Mart, Lin would be a great plug and play PG on that team. Those are the type of teams that would best "fit" Lin. The problem is, Lin is a ROLE PLAYER as far as the NBA is concerned, not a star or even a borderline star. It would take a special situation (such as injuries or rebuilding) for Lin to get the type of chance his fans want him to get IMO.
     
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    My observation from watching games against Grizzlies and Suns recently: Conley and Dragic are getting what Lin was getting in NY: Multiple screens on pretty much all of their half court sets. Nobody(including Bev) was able to fight through most of those screens and stop their shooting/passing/attacking.

    We run read and react offense with one or two screens every few possessions. It's totally different strategy, and usually benefit wing players(shared passing and creation opportunities).
     
  17. meh

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    For all the talk about the Rockets being the wrong system. From what all the rumors Morey has tried to trade away Lin and everyone else thinks Lin's worthless at his price. So if Lin truly can be a great PG in the right place, like a Dragic or a Conley(both making similar money to Lin), does this mean that none of the other NBA teams know how to use Lin either?

    You'd think Lin would have at least half the value of Dragic or Conley if he were just in the wrong system, right?
     
  18. iconoclastic

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    The same GMs, coaches, and decision-makers who cut, underrated, and didn't want to give Lin a chance enough to make Linsanity possible in the first place are the same GMs, coaches, and decision-makers in charge of other NBA teams now.
     
  19. infinite-loop

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    Playing for Rox does have upside for Lin

    Playing for Rox in a system that does not suit him does have upside for Lin in the sense that he is forced to work on his weakness -- spot up shooting, defense etc. He is a hard worker and dedicated to improving his game. In the long term his time with the Rox will make him a more complete player.

    Which team he will be on in the long term -- that I do not know.
     
  20. Old Man Rock

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    Lin's contract is 15 mil. That's what a team has to pay for him next year. The only teams that wouldn't flinch at that amount of money or Portland, LA and New York and maybe the Nets. The Knicks want him. LA is rebuilding and values cap space right now. The Blazers have Lilliard and the Nets have Deron Williams and even then there was some talk about trading for Lin. The Knicks want him desperately but we don't want there crap. We may possibly get Melo this summer and almost for sure that deal will include Lin.

    That being said Lin is not on Dragic's level so even at 8 mil there wouldn't be many more takers for him. When healthy he is still good. He plays better D than his Linsanity days and mostly plays smarter.
     

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