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Jeremy Lin's upside

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by meh, Jul 20, 2012.

  1. raskol

    raskol Contributing Member

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    Players hit their ceiling when their talents are maximized or until they prove that they are not able to improve on their weaknesses much. Lin's talents are not maximized, meaning that he still has a lot of holes in his game that can be improved, potentially. The fact that he's doing what he's doing now and last year with as many holes as Lin has is itself testament to his potential. I see him improving for years to come and I fully expect him to definitely be in the upper tier of point guards in 2-3 years. 18 & 8 shooting, 37%+ from 3, better on-ball defense and ability to navigate screens, which would make him deadly.
     
  2. munco

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    yeah, i don't see why people think he's hit his ceiling already. he's played a little over a full season now and he's been improving as the year goes on (see his jumper). i think he can still get better
     
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    I thought this was really surprising from the interview.

    Doc: I still believe his game shooting numbers will continue to reflect and be closer to his drill shooting numbers as he continues to make progress. He was shooting mid 70's %wise in ALL shooting situations this summer. He should be in the 40's from 3 and 50 overall...85 from the line.

    If Lin can shoot 50/40/80 for an entire season that would be more than All Star worthy.
     
  4. raskol

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    That would be like my birthday wish next year. That and a Western Conference Finals appearance in the playoffs for us, lol.
     
  5. Billionzz

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    Why would you say that? That is just ridiculous, most young players that work hard get better, why would Lin be any different?

    I would say he will be better for sure, how much I don't know but I will be happy to watch his progress.
     
  6. AustinPowers

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    He would be an all time great.
     
  7. AustinPowers

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    Some folks don't understand basketball.
    Look at these future HOF PG in their earlier years: Kidd, Rondo, Parker, Nash

    As a starter, Lin's numbers are BETTER. His improvement through the season also is a good indicator he's getting 'better'. The numbers don't lie, he's improving and trending up in skills. Give me another PG in the league with an upward overall trend since the start of the season.
     
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    Its obvious Lin will only be getting better for the life of this contract.

    But its also not debatable that he is overpaid at $8 mil a year.

    So are the Rockets making money back on advertising etc.? I remember reading that the NBA shares all merchandise revenue etc. Can anyone fill me in on why Rockets offered him so much?
     
  9. kuku

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    Rockets are not contending this year. His performance vs his contract value is irrelevant this year. No one really cares beside LOF's and LOH's.

    If Rockets are to contend on his second or third year, Lin's performance at $8.3M will not be good enough. He will have to play above his contract. This goes out for all core players.

    If every one of our core players performs at his contract level, Rockets will not be good enough to contend.
     
  10. rocketsfan4

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    What exactly are you expecting from a starting PG playing next to Harden? His numbers have trended upwards, he has played EVERY SINGLE GAME, he has not complained or caused any problems regardless of how he is being treated or played, he has dominated at times when given free reign, and his overall averages are solid for a starting PG, even with the horrific start. Plus, he only made $5 mill. this year, unless you are counting cap hit because you were expecting a championship run this year.
     
  11. VanityHalfBlack

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    Dude all athletes are overpaid WTF are you talking about.. They get paid to put an orange ball through a hoop that I can buy at wal-mart for like .50 cents, the mesh net that is for .50 cents, lol..
     
  12. DaDakota

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    I think JLin can get to near all star level, or maybe get a few all star years in, he is never going to be a superstar, but he can get to star level with work.

    He really needs a left handed finish, better dribbling, and a floater, and we are good to go....reminds me of a young Tony Parker.

    DD
     
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    Sure he will improve, but so will other promising young PGs in this league. I just don't see Lin taking another huge leap forward, most players don't continually taking leaps forward. The role player types usually have marginal incremental improvements year after year, the solid starter types usually have a huge leap than stabilizes (eg. the Kyle Lowry, Goran Gragic, George Hill, Jameer Nelsons,Mo Williams etc)

    In the future, I don't see Lin being better than the likes of Chris Paul, Rondo, Kyrie Irving, Derrick Rose, Westbrook, Tony Parker, Steph Curry, Jrue Holiday, Deron Williams, John Wall, Damian Lillard, in no particular order. Also I expect some players from the likes of Ty Lawson, Kemba Walker, Ricky Rubio etc to be better than Lin as well. In the next several years, there's bound to be one or two young stud PGs who are better than Lin. When you add all these together, where does Lin fall? An average starting PG.
     
  14. kuku

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    Please look deep into your crystal ball and tell me what will be the lotto numbers.

    I will give you a very generous tip if I win.
     
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    The word "average" unfortunately carries a negative connotation with some people. I'd say Lin is currently playing well above average. If you take the entire year as a sample he trends closer to the middle. Personally I'd like to see at least another half season to see a second year improvement. Team chemistry, co-existing with Harden, hopefully improved rotations from McHale, etc. At the beginning of the year I was very skeptical considering the contract he got. He's pleasantly surprised me since mid season.

    However I don't see his upside being at Linsanity levels. At least not on this team with this offense and coach.
     
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    Sure, there is no reason why Lin won't improve as he ages.
     
  17. raskol

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    That is a very hateristic comment. And your motives are so see-through. undebatable that he is overpaid? Why were we so crazy/stupid enough to pay Lin such a ridiculous contract? You, sir, are a troll!

    You first came on the board saying you join as a LOF but have since your first post played down Lin and Lin fans in every post. The r****ded thing is I don't even think you know it, lol.

    BTW, I don't think you know what the word "undebatable" means. Either that or you're baiting and causing trouble for no reason. Either way, I don't enjoy your kind.
     
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  18. AustinPowers

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    Tell that to the New York Knicks and the Time Warner (500 million per year contract) that they scored with during Linsanity.
     
  19. hltiki

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    AHAHAHA I love this answer! It really puts things into perspective.
     
  20. grauser01

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    Do you know that Lin is 39% from 3 in March and April? ;)
    I don't worry anymore , he is ready!
     

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