Yes, I knew TP took a small amount of 3's that year. But, since he didn't actually hit 40%, I didn't think it was worth mentioning. And No, If he made 4 more 3's he'd be at 49 and 40, not 50 and 40. And I did write that he came close, but when it comes to numbers, close doesn't count. Saying that he did it when he came close is a falsity.
This. Close the thread. Although I hate to say it because people just write it off as a crazed Lin fan. I also hate it because I don't want to jinx the guy. But for anyone with a different background, appearance, and "attitude," alot more people would be in this camp.
offensively they are close, but Conley is more consistent FG% 2FG% 3FG% FT% eFG% TS% FGA 3FGA PPS FTA Conley 44.0% 47.7% 36.0% 83.1% 49.7% 54.9% 16.4 5.1 1.24 4.9 Lin 44.4% 48.5% 34.0% 79.0% 49.2% 54.0% 16.3 4.6 1.23 5.0 Average PG 43.3% 46.3% 36.7% 81.5% 49.1% 53.3% 17.1 5.4 1.18 4.2
Hmm you are right offensively they are close. But consistency counts for a lot in the nba so conley has the edge.
If he can improve on his boring 1 dimensional dribble moves than he can be very good, just think about it, he's blowing by his defenders with basic hesitation drives, imagine if he had the handles of an elite PG like Curry or CP3.
Jeremy can be an explosive scorer while Conley can't. I always check the career highs of players to find out the upside. It is more accurate than perception. Check the players page on nba.com. It is very clear Lin is a better offensive player while Conley is better defensively. http://www.nba.us/playerfile/mike_conley/career_stats.html vs. http://www.nba.com/playerfile/jeremy_lin/career_stats.html
Doesn't matter. With a big sample size, career highs in score, rebound, assist tell a better story about a player's upside.
Then we should also keep in mind Lin shares PG duties with Harden while Conley does not split his duties. Against the Suns last game Lin rarely initiated in the 2nd half and barely touched the ball the last 5 minutes of the 4th. I don't see this happening to Conley.
You gotta take this season-wide data with a grain of salt. Lin's trend has been upward as he has been recovering from his surgery.
That is irrelevant to me. Conley has shown a consistency throughout the season that Lin hasn't so for now he is the better player.
I think you're replying to me. How has Conley demonstrated that consistency though? By having less single-digit scoring games? Or are you saying you watch the Grizzlies games and he plays very consistently? In March and April, Lin have been pretty consistent. There is a stretch of four games where he was below double digit but he only played 20 some odd minutes in each of those four games. Conley always played greater than 30 minutes. Also, in March, Lin averaged 10.1 attempts while Conley averaged 13.4 attempts per game.
But here's the thing. I'm also a league pass abuser and I also see a whole lot of games, a whole lot. And I see that players have inconsistent games as much if not more than Lin, but their minutes in the game and especially the final quarter, are nearly set in stone allowing them to get their "numbers". And most interestingly, they almost always get a pass in those non-productive games and people barely even mention it (I also always watch all games while reading opposing team's threads), but if Lin has one bad quarter (case in point, 1st quarter of last game) the whole board starts dogging on Lin in the worst possible way. And when he took over in the 2nd, people start the he's inconsistent meme. Here are several reasons why people think Lin is inconsistent: 1) Lin is being watched under a microscope and every flaw or miss is indicative of his "true" nature or inconsistency. Just read the last game thread, esp in the 1st quarter where everyone was dogging him badly. 2) His coaches do not give him consistent minutes as a starting pg. In April, he's been given more consistent minutes and his numbers have gone up considerably. Surprise, surprise. 3) Lin limits his role when he doesn't feel it and allows the "hotter" player to perform as he has a coach's mentality out there and doesn't care about his numbers. 4) Lin defers to Harden to be the de facto pg when they are on the court together a large chunk of the game. 5) Plus, he's inconsistent, lol. But not to the degree that he's any different from most other players. It's just that he limits himself when he's not feeling it, so as not to be a chucker ala Westbrook. My contention is that no player has great games all the time. Just look at our own Harden. He's had more bad games than good recently, but because he gets his "numbers" and we don't put him under a critical microscope, it feels like his bad games are far and few between, when it's not true. Also, although I give Harden a pass as bad stretches happen to every player, Kobe, Jordan, Magic, Bird, etc. some people on this board (many Lin fans especially) are sometimes overly critical just to counterbalance the completely biased views on Lin. And finally, I don't think Conley is much better, if better at all than Lin, even on the defensive end. I've seen enough of Conley's game to know he's pretty good defensively, but so is Lin. Lin does allow penetration, but so does Conley. What Conley does have is a better front court backing him up and not allowing penetration. With Lin funneling players all the time, we need better team defense to really make it shine. Granted, I think Lin's very slow coming off of screens considering his speed.
Lin might be the hardest player to figure out in the NBA or maybe he's just the most scrutinized/followed. He can explode for 30+ any given night and then the next night put up 6 points. Is it him? Is it the coaching? Is it a bit of both? It's definitely bizarre. He consistently has break out games. More so than any other player I can think of offhand. His monster games are encouraging, but can he maintain?
