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Jeremy Lin's upside

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by meh, Jul 20, 2012.

  1. MamboRock

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    Air Langhi has said before that WWIII may not be a bad idea economically. So what he said here did not surprise me at all.
     
  2. zdrav

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    Yes, and perception is all that matters. Many "pure" African-Americans are multiracial due to the sad fact that many slaveowners raped their slaves.
     
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  3. Knickskiller

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    WELL the whites started this . with the 'one drop rule' .
    quote 'meaning any person with "one drop of Negro blood" was considered black. The principle of "invisible blackness" was an example of hypodescent, the automatic assignment of children of a mixed union between different socioeconomic or ethnic groups to the group with the lower status.[1] The one-drop rule was not adopted as law until the 20th century: first in Tennessee in 1910 and in Virginia under the Racial Integrity Act of 1924 (following the passage of similar laws in several other states).
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-drop_rule '


    whites were obsessed with racial purity.
     
  4. split41

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    FWIW, Larry was going to be a no #1 pick, but when he told the pacers that he was going to go back to college for one year, obviously no one picked him, except Red who used a loophole in the draft and drafted him a year early (which was a gamble at #6).

    So Larry would have been a #1 pick if Red wasn't so crafty, so Larry was hardly underrated when he came in.
     
  5. CarolNYC

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    Don't really know where to put this so I'm throwing it in here....

    The 60 Minutes piece on Jeremy looks like it's finally going to see the light of day....
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Here's my 60 Minutes story from last night. Blindsided: Brian Banks Story. Next up, Linsanity &amp; Jeremy Lin @<a href="https://twitter.com/jlin7">jlin7</a> <a href="http://t.co/Tpsj64PIVu" title="http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50143485n">cbsnews.com/video/watch/?i…</a> … …</p>&mdash; Pete Radovich, Jr. (@PeteRadovich) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteRadovich/status/316210827185254400">March 25, 2013</a></blockquote>
    <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
     
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    Response

    My point still is valid. I am aware of Larry Bird's background. The fact that Bird was so highly regarded via awards and draft, but yet under-regarded by other NBA players speaks a volume about the perception. That's my point.
     
  7. DaDakota

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    Tony Parker is his upside....and that would not be bad.

    DD
     
  8. pnr

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    I would be happy if he could become a Conley-like player. Consistent every night and a good floor general. I think that is his ceiling tbh.
     
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    Maybe not so much on defense, but I would say he's already on or very near Conley's level. Their numbers are pretty similar, and considering Conley is the sole playmaker and has arguably the best frontcourt duo in the league, I'd say Jeremy is pretty up to par on him in terms of his numbers. Granted, I would still say Conley's better as of now because if his defense and I agree that Jeremy needs to be more consistent like him, but I'd actually say Jeremy has a slightly higher ceiling. I think both can be borderline all stars in their prime
     
  10. kianainhi

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    Thanks. I was thinking about this awhile ago. I thought possibly it got shelved or would be aired around the Taiwan pre-season game since it began last summer.

    The last I read on Pete Radovich's twitter a while ago was that he promised the fans that it would be a good segment.

    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/bVemVGXOUGM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
  11. aesthetics80

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    Conley isn't all that much more consistent than Jeremy. Look at his game logs.

    It's Conley's 6th year on the same team and system and he has a ton more experience.

    Lin is barely finishing a first full season as a starter coming off an injury and learning a new role and new system with new teammates.

    It took 6 seasons for Conley to reach his current level yet Lin is matching his production in just his 3rd season (if you can even call his first 2 seasons real seasons). I'd say Lin's on pace to be much better than Conley by his 6th year in the league.
     
  12. raskol

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    It's a Lin-hype backlash/grass-is-greener-on-the-other-side thing. Dragic and Lowry is thought of more highly because of the dislike of Lin, nevermind the gamelogs, stats, or the eye-test. The same with Bev (whom I really like) and TD. Last year, everyone wanted Baron Davis to start over Lin, because he seemed to be so great off the bench (even in the midst of Linsanity for crying out loud) so everyone cried out for BDiddy to start (most believed that Lin was just lucky) but once Lin got injured, BDiddy wasn't all that anymore. Felton, the same. People for some reason, naturally think that anybody is better than Lin! If AB played and had a couple of 20 pt games, he'd be better than Lin too. People just like to be proved right and they'll justify the Lin-hate/doubt even if they have to be biased or bend reality. It is what it is. Some posters here really think that Beverley, TD, and Lin are the same caliber players and are interchangeable, and if you met them in real life, they'd probably be not so bad. Their minds are made up, is all, and it would take a lot as Lin already mentioned in several interviews to convince them otherwise. It's the Jeremy Lin effect, I guess.
    Personally speaking, I don't know how anyone who's played or loved basketball can't see how unselfish, impactful, and exciting Lin is. I just don't get it. And yes, we all see that he's frustratingly inconsistent and see all his weaknesses.
     
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  13. tefunk

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    Here's what Lin's coach, Doc Scheppler, wants to work with him on this off-season.

    http://www.jeremylin.net/2013/04/another-amazing-interview-with-doc.html?m=1#comment-form

    Will you be working with him again this
    summer? If so, what things will you be
    focusing on?

    Doc: Yes.. I have a long list of skills and
    improvement areas.

    We'll continue to work on all of the
    shooting situations so he can shoot a high
    %age on every shot. We'll also combine
    cardiovascular fatigue to the drill situations
    to better simulate a game.

    I'm also going to suggest he play a lot of
    small sided pick 2v2 3v3 where he's
    working on mastering playing away from
    the ball , moving into passing windows,
    being hard to guard without the ball, and
    developing a shooters mentality under
    playing conditions. Using these practice
    situations will give him hands on
    experience,and with that, a confidence in
    his shooting ability in games. i wanted to
    start that this past summer but we were
    limited with his knee rehab. I want to work
    on his shooters body language where he is
    seeking the ball with a mind set like a cat
    on the prowl. So many times he's standing
    without a purpose.

    I'd like to continue to cut down his shot
    release time which is just about making
    jump quicker on his shot.
    He's developed a nice repertoire of finishing
    moves around the basket,but, he still
    reverts to a left foot take off lay-up too
    much, which puts him at risk for getting
    drilled, and is, sometimes not the right
    finish at the right time. I want him to be
    able to dunk off a 2 foot take-off and a
    right foot take-off. He basically has his left
    leg as his pet takeoff leg (like a high or
    long jumper) . I'd like him to develop the
    ability to be almost as comfortable off his
    right and 2 feet.

    I'm sure he'll continue to work on his
    handle to get it tighter, as well as his off
    hand development passing the ball. He
    really passes well with his left hand and
    worked hard to improve that.. It's an
    absolute joke that the "experts" say he can't
    go left because he has no left hand.. He
    prefers driving right because his left leg is
    his most comfortable exploding leg.. He has
    made GREAT strides in driving left with an
    explosive burst since last year.

    Lastly, he needs to continue to master a 2
    foot floater. Many times on his drives he
    takes it too deep when he has space in that
    8-12 foot floater zone. We'll work on that
    quick 2 foot stop floater so he can shoot
    the ball before the helping big can get to it..
    All you have to do is watch Tony Parkers
    floater and see how effective you can be.
    Jeremy prefers the 1 foot high arcing
    runner which he 's not consistent with.
    (too much forward movement going off his
    1 foot causing long misses and a difficult
    time controlling distance) He'll have a
    deadly floater next year!
     
  14. Type Raba

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    hallelujah! been saying this all season :grin:
     
  15. AustinPowers

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    I'm a redneck from Texas and my buddy is black. We both are now Lin fans. True bballers with no agenda or propaganda know the dude is going to be a star in this league.
     
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    i recommend reading the whole article. has really good stuff
     
  18. Karolik

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    Wow he nailed it.
     
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    Hmm I doubt he would be nearly as good as Tony Parker...A more realistic measure would be Mike Conley, solid on both ends
     

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