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Jeremy Lin's Terrific 6-Game Start To The 2013-14 Season

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by PhiSlamma, Nov 8, 2013.

  1. ed_tx

    ed_tx Contributing Member

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    But is Dwight hurting or helping Harden? On offense, could he be clogging the lane too much (along with Asik) and thus not give Harden enough room when he tries to drive to the basket? On defense does Harden feel like he can sag off and not play as intense b/c he thinks Dwight will be there if his guy gets by him?
     
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    The biggest improvement is that I can see is not his shot, it's how well he pushes the ball up the court down the opposing point guards throats. What he did to Lillard was beautifull. Hopefully lin will do that to Paul tonight. You cant stop Chris Paul, but you can get him into foud trouble if you push the tempo and make him defend you. That's what Lin has become very good at.


    Overall, I've been very impressed with his game so far.
     
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    Dwight Hurts us and Slows us down when he wants the post entery and holds on to the ball to long before his move which usually gives the defense time to settle and the net result more often then not is a turnover due to Dwights bad foot skills.That stagnantes the offense.


    When he actually makes his move straight away, it usually results in a easy layup or dunk due to his explosive speed.
     
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    Yep. him picking up lillard pretty high up the court in that 3rd quarter was some of the best defence I've seen him play
     
  5. Spiegel

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    Lillard dosent like people getting into his grill. He thrives when you give him an inch because a player like him who thrives off the dribble needs that space. Get physical with guys like him and push the tempo and force him to defend, they will find it harder.
     
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    I agree though I get very frustrated when Harden does his 15 sec of dribbling the ball in the same spot and then with 5 sec left decides to try to force it or jacks up a tough shot. That's why, for as great as Harden is, I would rather have Lin initiate the offense. Harden will still get his 20+ pts and more than likely, they will be easier and higher percentage shots.
     
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    One of the best things about Lin is he is consistent about improving. From Golden State until now. Not all players show consistency in improving every year. The beginning of his year in Houston was bad, but when one of your legs isn't fully healed you cant play your best. After his recovery, post All-star break until now he has shown improvement year after year.
     
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    this is so the conservative new media report guy lol
     
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    Lin is the backup of Harden. So when Harden is out because of injury, who's going to run the offense for the Rockets? Beverly possibly? But who is going to play with Beverly, we are left with only Jeremy Lin Aron Brooks.

    A championship contender needs the depth in point guards, don't you forget. So the odd man out game can't hold water. It's long season. Players might have to sit out some of the games. The Rockets only have 3 three competitive guards on the court. Aaron Brooks is an offensive specialist. On a given night, he might even be as good as James Harden.

    The above needs to be congratulated for the team. Again, Jeremy has a very important role in the team. Nobody can take it from him w/o Our Lord's approval.
     
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    I dont think any team would take them both.
    Next season, they would cost $15M each but only count for $8M each off the cap.

    Well, actually, maybe the Lakers, but they'd need to amnesty Kobe.

    And I reckon Asik would be first off the block if any trades were to happen.

    So the question is, what teams out there has a need for a centre and have
    assets that would appeal to Morey.
     
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    Regd the turnovers, according to Kevin Pelton of SHOENE metrics, for a
    young player, high turnovers is not necessarily a bad thing. Well, bad
    in the short term.

    http://regressing.deadspin.com/nba-...n-greg-oden-the-fraudulent-1453982395/@kylenw

     
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    You have a point. With this CBA, even Cuban wouldn't do something like that. No way the Knicks want Asik.
     
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    With Tyson Chandler out, I reckon they would!
    But they have nothing that Morey wants thought.
    From memory, they've traded all their picks till the end of this decade.
     
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    Wow. Great analysis in detail. Repped.

    I can see Lin's confidence is boosting too. Of course, I can't put that in numbers.
     
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    ~lol~ possibly. He's only out a month or so tho. Not sure they're gonna take on two poison pills next season just for that.
     
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    Nice report, thanks for sharing.
     
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    Please update regularly. :cool:

    Thanks!
     
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    I doubt Lin will ever reduce his TOs that much. He's turning it over less, because he's handling the ball less than his NYK days. It's his weakness, like Dwight and FTs. I think it'll always be that way.

    Great point about Lin passing up open 3pt shots. If Lin really is a 40%+ 3pt shooter, he's doing himself and his team a huge disservice by passing up on these open 3pt shots off a pick or off another player's pass. These are such great shots, the second field goal shot after a layup/dunk attempt.

    This is why S.Curry is so good. He shoots so many of these shots, and he's a top10 offensive threat, even though he sucks at finishing any attempt near the basket. But, since Lin is turnover prone, he should never be passing up this shot. It's ridiculous when he does, especially, since he seems to have improved into a quality shooter. If anything, he should be looking to see if he can should 7 or more per 36min.

    Whine more. Woe is Lin. Shame to all other Rockets. Call the whambulence.

    Yeah, Lin's game definitely does not pass the eye test. His game doesn't look good. He passes up way too many 3pters, and he does have cringe worthy TOs. He also doesn't have those highlight defensive plays that Bev tends to have. Open court 1on1 steals, or great rebounds against big men. But Lin is very fundamentally sound. He needs to take more 3pters. That could help alot. Great 3pt shooters tend to get noticed by casual fans. See Steph Curry being mentioned as an MVP candidate (lol).

    Um, you can't just take out people's bad games. If Lin has a good defensive game against CP3, are we going to include that? If he gets torched again for 145.9, do we ignore or include that? All games matter. What if he averages 90 against most PGs, but guys like CP3, Westbrook, Parker torch him for 130+? Who knows how it'll break down, but they all count.


    lol asking for fairness? WTF, fans are stupid. People are stupid. Alot of people think Kobe is a top5 player of all time. If Jeremy had the game that Curry or Rubio had, then plenty of people would love him. It doesn't have much to do with him being Asian. Maybe that's like 10% of the it. Most of it has to do with his game being ****ing weird and non-highlight worthy. Great drives but doesn't elevate and turns it over alot. Wasn't a great shooter initially (still has this perception to most fans and media) and had average looking defense. I can't think of another really good player EVER who played like him.

    You need to whine more. Less people give a **** about this than you think. Yeah, there's racists and soft racism, but most people, especially younger people do not care. Your mentality is like the Jewish guy who seeks out anti-semitism, or a black guy whose life shortcomings are because he's persecuted, or a white guy who see everything is anti-white or anti-men. Yeah, society sucks alot, but you amplify it with your ****ing persecution complex.

    Asians aren't the low man on the totem pole in America. You ever heard of things called education, money and marriage? How do Asians rank in those three? #1 buddy. Do you know how bad Natives or Muslims have it? That's some serious racism. Would you rather deal with the **** Hispanics or blacks have instead? Look at the prison population, the racism from police, the problems in their communities are serious ****ing problems.

    Maybe you're Asian, and you are the low man in your circle, and listening to posts like these, I'm not surprised. I live in the New York/New Jersey area, and plenty of Asian dudes are making a killing here with their careers, women, and in general living great lives. I know Asians do get alot of racist ****, mostly from Hollywood, college admissions, upper corporate management, and Hollywood again (**** those assholes). **** that is racist as ****, and it needs to change, but life isn't exactly horrible. But alot of the shortcomings in Asians' lives are things they could absolutely fix themselves, and many are working on that.

    However guys with your attitude, whether you're Asian, black, white, hispanic, whatever, are the suck in life. Yeah, you're not a white guy who gets to play life on Easy Mode, I get that. But you're also not some Indian girl in India or a Muslim country. You're not a poor kid in Africa. You're in the top 5% on a place called Earth. Racism sucks. Go fix it, quit amplifying it by playing the victim which permeates in so many posts of people like you. Quit with your insecurity that comes through in every Lin post. You're not helping Asians or Lin, you're just ruining my Rockets' experience.

    Is this where I mention that I'm Asian too, so I don't seem like a racist dick? (yes I am)
     
  19. zdrav

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    Hi, Overcompensating Asian Guy. I can tell you're a badass because you use "****" words.
     
  20. James88

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    No, it's because everyone where I live and work swears all the ****ing time. Too much booze, smoking, and alot of ****ing swearing. Then again, maybe it's because I'm Asian, and I have to ****ing overcompensate for that. My white buddies all tend to swear for normal reasons.
     

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