I agree with each person's analysis BUT what people have to realize is that going under screens or fighting through them is a part of the coaching scheme designed for each player being defended. It's not like toney or jeremy decide on the spot every time that they'll just go under screens cause they don't have the lateral quickness. They review tape and based on how tight the screen setter sets picks (ie. Ibaka) and how good of a shooter the guard is coming off of screens (ie. Westbrick). Then the coaching staff will make the most informed decision for Douglas/Lin to go under or fight through the screens when guarding their man. some guards are good at catch and shoots while some are good at shooting off the dribble/screens. if they think a player is bad at off the dribble/screen shots (ie. rondo), then they'll take a gamble and go under screens to defend the pick and roll better. some big guys set loose screens that you can fight through easily like ppat and some create solid/tight screens that are hard to fight through. Yesterday, Dion Waiters had a foul for trying to fight through Asik's screen for Lin. He decided not to go under and tried to push through Asik and got the foul. Gist is, there's a lot more of a coaching decision to going under/over screens than people know. Mchale's talked about this many times.
This. And when you have guards able to penetrate, they also try to go under as McHale has said repeatedly that they want to shut down the paint and make the other team beat us from the outside. Yet, it doesn't excuse the fact that our team both our guards and our bigs need to navigate the pnr better as there are tons of pnr teams out there. The Lakers with their back against the wall + Nash is going to be a big test of our pnr defense. Of course, they probably couldn't guard us as we're like 10-12 years younger than them on average!
You have to give Lin some time. He just finished his 1 full season. Give him another season or two and he will be one of the elite pg (assume no injury on the way). Deron Williams is pathetic. I really think Howards should go to Nets instead of Lakers, then both of them can cry together.
I would have to say that the #1 reason that the three of our guards don't go over the top of screens nearly all the time is because the screeners have been cutting in between them and the ball handlers. These screeners would still be moving toward them and not stand still with hands down. They would even push them away from the ball handler. These actions are actually illegal screening, pushing and holding. But rarely are they called. I am sure if the screeners stand still as they should to be legit, our three guards would defend screens much better by having the optons to go over rather than under. This is not an individual problem as I have watched this illegal screening happen all the time but no calls made. I think McHale should sort this out quickly and come up with a solution, maybe having the screener's defender move up to guard the ball handler, but that might not be a good solution since a mismatch and messy rotation may be created. Any way, I think this will continue to happen a lot until there is a TEAM SOLUTION.
They could try like many teams have before, but for how long. Eventually, they will wear out and we should be able to run em to death. They'll feel like they were running sprints during SEAL training!
the team's solution is to switch on D. refs don't call enough moving screen violations...if they did, the game would take 3 hours. lol
I'm all in favor of switching the decision to go under or through screens depending on who you're defending and who else is in the game. Once players burn us and make repeated 3 point shots when we're going under the screens then we need to change. Also if Asik is in the game then we should be going over the screens because if the players drive we have a legitimate shot blocker back there to clog up the paint. If Asik isn't in the game I can see the guards going under screens more when guarding players that have a tendency being effective at driving.
That probably is part of the reason. I just feel like if our guards tried to fight through some of those screens it would draw attention to the moving screen aspect and maybe we'd get some calls out of it.
You're dreaming if you think the NBA will call those moving screens often enough to be worth getting hung up on screens all night. The better screen/pick setters don't abide by the rules. They shift slightly, are sometimes moving, and tend to grab/entangle the guard on the way through. Only occasionally are they called for it, which is why they keep doing it. Lin fights over screens reasonably well adjusted for how good the person person setting the pick or screen happens to be. Watch Lin fight over screens closely. You'd be surprised at how often Lin and our other players run into grabs, entangles, moving screens, etc. They just don't call them very often, especially against the bigger name players.
No he really isn't. Don't understand this notion that Tony is a great defender. He runs into screens like he was shot, he overly fouls the player & when he gets beat he doesn't even try to recover nor is he particularly adept at funnelling the defender into help defense. I would type up the numbers off of Synergy comparing the two but Synergy is giving me problems.
No not really. When Lin & Douglas & Harden are in together Tony guards the PG just because he is smaller than Lin & harden. Lin guards the SG & James the SF.
All of the guards will fight through the pick at certain times. It's just sometimes they don't. I know it's harder, more tiring, and a lot more work to fight through the picks. But if we're being killed from the 3 point line our guards either need to try and fight through them, or bring the screener's defender up as early as possible to take the 3 pointer away.
Douglas is a better on ball defnder then Lin. lin plays the passing lanes better. Neither is above average
Douglas is a aggressive pesky guard that doesn't necessarily have the best fundamentals. But he does put pressure on whoever he is guarding by being super annoying and in his face.
JLin has been playing very well defensively... This team will be a nightmare when they start playing better defense on the perimeter as a unit. A lock down defensive player to come in off the bench would be nice...
