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Jeremy Lin

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by jbasket, Feb 8, 2012.

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  1. Spooner

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    Still can't fathom how so many of you actually believe that Lin is better than Lowry, let alone any star pg in the league. I hope Lin becomes a solid PG in the league and I'm sure he will be. I think it's in everyone's best interest if I stop posting in this thread. I'm sure that decision is unanimous.... Have fun cheering on the Knicks at the expense of the Rockets.
     
  2. gmoney411

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    No it's not. Five wins as starter does not prove greatness. It's that same tebow argument. You have to look at more than that. Make sure you know how top make good arguments before you call someone a troll
     
  3. flamingdts

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    Who didn't see that coming.

    A completely straw man attempt to win an argument. Absolutely no relevance to the topic at hand.

    Kind of like "You don't agree with me? Well I bet you molest kids"
     
  4. Luckyazn

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    Rockets are lucky NY doesnt play here the rest of the season....

    Morey would really be feeling it.
     
  5. MD_in_Training

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    Who the hell said anything about greatness? You're making up straw man after straw man. The point made was that regardless of Lin's real or imagined drop-off in productivity, the wins are by far the most important statistic given that he was the centerpiece of the team's play in said wins. I understand that you have to look at more than simply being on a team that puts up wins, but the Horry/MJ comparison is obviously asinine.
     
  6. RedRedemption

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    Expense of the Rockets? Lol.
    So. Who decided to cut Lin? I forget... who... I'm not blaming Morey but at the same time Lin could have been a Rocket. Fate favored the Knicks just get over it dude.
     
  7. blahblehblah

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    The vast majority of the "people" here are simply rejoicing and sharing their interest/awe at the fact that an undrafted, cut twice in one season, 15th roster spot AA player from Harvard, is having one of the greatest first 5 game start EVER in the history of the NBA. Lets not lose sight of that because of a few people may or may not prefer Lin to player A or player B.

    For the past 6 games, Lin has definitely been better than Lowry however whether or not he continues to be so in the future is to be determined. Personally I think Lowry will most likely be the better player the last 30+ games of the season but it isnt out of the realm of possibility he isnt. So lets just enjoy this crazy story and see where it goes instead of getting mired in the fog of preference, subjectiveness and whats going to happen.
     
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    Personally I still cant fathom how you think going from 51% to 45% and adding two t/o in ONE GAME = HUGE DROP off in production, especially when he increased his point total and assist totals while having a true shooting % of 54!
    :confused:
     
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    Hello all, meet common sense.
     
  10. gmoney411

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    Go back to page 45 and look at Spooner's conversation. He repeatedly uses the word not great to describe Lin's performance. Not sure if you are aware but greatness is a measure of great. So to answer your question Spooner and some other posters brought up greatness.

    It's no asinine at all. It is just an example of how looking at winning numbers does not tell the whole story. Add in the fact that I made it in a joking manner and it is completely appropriate and not trolling at all.
     
  11. gmoney411

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    Lin has not been very good in his last two games. I watched both of them from start to finish and both weren't very well played games. He shot 33% in game one with six turnovers and had eight turnovers in the last one. From a pg that cannot be considered good play to me. However, he got both Ws with clutch play and that can't be overlooked. But as a whole the last two games were subpar pg performances.
     
  12. iconoclastic

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    When Lin learns a left hand and improves his jump shot, watch out!
     
  13. heartofachamp34

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    OMG..

    This ... is AMAZING.
     
  14. Akim523

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    Few random stats.

    Lin ranked 6th among nba starters in usage rate.
    He's turnover% is 17.7 while league average for pg is around 14.
    A little too turnover prone?! Guess what, Rubios TO% is a wooping 22.7 while usage rate being 18.0

    Lin will be fine
     
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    LOL, Oh Rubio, I still love you dawg!!!:grin:
     
  16. Spooner

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    Not about that. Every game the Knicks win takes us further away from the chance at drafting someone like Meyers Leonard. Initially, given the upcoming schedule, we had a legit shot at drafting in the top 10. Now, I as well as many others here, are hoping for at least the 15th pick in the draft. If you have a problem with that, fine.

    To those of you calling me Glen Rice, I merely stated my opinion. It is not in the least bit in my nature to be a racist toward anyone. I'm just not that kind of person. I would appreciate it if I weren't compared to someone who obviously is. If I don't believe that Jeremy Lin is currently all that he is hyped up to be, it is just my opinion. No one should be personally offended.
     
  17. blahblehblah

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    The T-wolves game as a whole was definitely not good, as he had a good/great first half 7-12 15pts 5 assist and a terrible/horrid second half 1-12fg 5pts 3 assist = a very pedestrian 8-24 20 pts 8 assist 6 t/o.

    Tonight's game, JLin had 27 pts 11 assist 9-20 fg 7-11 ft, 54% true shooting % and 8 to's. If that in your opinion is a subpar performance I'll have to disagree.

    Perspective is a funny thing, a few weeks ago if you told me JLin or hell even Rubio or Irving (ROY) led their team to a win with a line of 9-20, 27 11 and 8to's I woulda thought wow lots of to's but great game. And now when Jeremy lin does it in his 5 start, I'm only mildly impressed. Hell, a few weeks ago I woulda been sorta impressed by Lin's T-wolves line lol.
     
  18. Spooner

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    You do understand that in many, many cases a higher usage rate is actually worse right?
     
  19. Akim523

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    Love Rubio too, he's truly a special player.

    I Think it's also fair to say that Lin takes care of the ball better than people give him credit for, especially considering hes been one of the most used players in this league for only 6 games without playing any major minutes before.
     
  20. heartofachamp34

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    BTW, all you posters hating on his turnover rate while hopping on Russell Westbrook's **** of all players just makes me LOL. We're talking about a dude playing with the most gifted pure scorer in the league in Durant who can't even average 6 assists per game (5.7), yet still manages to turn it over 4.3 times a game. That's a 1.32 A/TO ratio. Lin is at 8.5 pg and 5.2 topg in these past 6 games, for a 1.63 A/TO, and that's after probably being run as the training squad PG in team practices until a week ago.
     
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