Jeremy Lin sets record for 6th worst PER in the history of the playoffs

Of course. But the CBA has changed the rules. Lin's contract is specifically structured as a poison pill contract 5, 5, 15. but averaged 8.3 cap hit.

So I don't think you should refer to Lin as a $15m max contract player. He is not getting paid more than Harden because they expect him to play like a max star in his 3rd year.

Just like if a player's contract was structured 2, 2, 20. You wouldn't call him a 20m player. You would call him an $8m player. The article is misleading by calling Lin a 15m player. He is actually an $8m player as per his cap hit.

 

I don't even care about the money as much. I just don't want him on the court. He is a liability. He made Aaron Brooks look like a superstar.

 

In comparison.....its like he made House Party 2 look like House Party 1.

 

That's an insult to AB, AB is a superstar.

 

If you care about the money....
"Lin's original contract offer paid him roughly $5 million a year for the first two seasons of his contract before ballooning to nearly $15 million in the final stage of the deal.

Per Larry Coon of ESPN.com's NBA Salary Cap FAQ, only Lin's incumbent team at the time (the Knicks) would have to structure the contract exactly like the offer. Others are able to spread the $25.1 million out evenly over three years"
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1613744-houston-rockets-trading-jeremy-lin-during-offseason-isnt-as-crazy-as-you-think

 

What are you saying: Lin practiced ball handling and passing instead of shooting last summer?

I find it incredibly "racist" of LOF's to ignore that Yao Ming was ever on this team. ("Asian-American" is not a race, by the way. Lin and Yao do share the same race though, as I understand.)

Maybe his $25 million contract made him feel that he ought to um perform like an NBA basketball player.

Dude it's like you read my mind! (That's a joke.)

This board is actually private property. Someone owns it and pays for it. It's not like the air, which is free to all. You think that because you can go walk into a public library that you are able to do whatever you want there (and no one owns it)? Why don't you start your own board of basketball racial justice called LinFans?

A lot of "older" fans probably remember that Yao was on the Rockets, for example, and remember that the many people you are accusing of racism loved Yao. When newer posters don't even know Rafer Alston or Moochie Norris, they seem less qualified to talk about the relative position of Lin among Rockets PG's. As you see above, Aaron Brooks had a year possibly better than Lin's as the Rockets' starting PG, so old-timers are aware that some Lin types (who have the great good fortune to be black and therefore not be subject to racism ) end up playing third string.

Dude there was this guy called Yao Ming and he was on the Rockets. He was Asian. And foreign too. His English was much worse than Jeremy Lin's. He didn't go to Harvard. And people loved him.

Hey, you're my special guy

Yeah, all the new fans brought all the love with their thousand "FIRE MCFAIL" posts and calling the team of Yao Ming a bunch of racists (you accuse the organization itself). I know: you say the hate from CF old-timers drove LOF's to fill the board with MCFAIL MCFAIL MCFAIL. Their feelings got hurt coz some racists made them keep returning to this site and venting their anger on the racist and unfair Houston Rockets when all they wanted to do was love everyone of all shapes and sizes. Dude there was this guy on the Rockets named Yao Ming? He was really popular around here. Have you heard of him? He was this tall Asian guy.

 

You're right Beverly started showing why he isn't starting material during the last OKC game...good observation!!!

 

Stop talking, stupid, do it.

 

and as a fan that cares about the team and how the team is structure and who we can bring in to play for the rockets..... how is that relevant to you? are you paying it? does it effect how les pays other players? will he all of sudden say "oh no i ran out of money for the payroll! sorry chandler, can't pay you this year"..

 

I had heard something along the lines of what you said. I'm not sure why Lin shot so poorly at the start. It was mentioned that Lin built a lot of muscle over the summer and that this can throw off your shot. It could be due to his injury as his knee was not 100%. Confidence seemed to play a role also, I'm sure Mchale's genius substitution patterns didn't help.

Not sure what my post has to do with Yao.

All NBA players make serious money. This doesn't seem to be a guarantee of professional behaviour. *See Dwight Howard. You may not think that being a model professional is an important attribute in a sportsman. I think it is, and it is far from universal. Unrelated to Lin, I'm not impressed by Harden's attitude as the 'leader' of the Rocket's so far. Though I am willing to give him time to grow. He is 23 and I'm sure he will mature in time.

I'm not sure of the relevance of this. I gave my opinion, that is all. You also seem to be confusing the term prejudice with racism.

Prejudice or : Pre - judice. To Pre - judge. I don't think that everyone pre-judiced against Lin is so because they are a racist. That is your flawed assumption.

It would be fair to say that I'm prejudiced against Stephanie Meyer. I've never read her books but I think she's a terrible writer. This is based purely on what I know of the twilight franchise. I'm also prejudiced against Justin Beiber. If I hear there is a new album released by him, I'm assuming it's trash even though I haven't really listened to any of his 'music.' None of this has anything to do with their race.

The Yao Ming example is a specious argument at best. 'Hey I like that Apu guy on the Simpsons so i can't be a racist!!?!?!'

Quite frankly I'm not interested in really getting into a discussion of racism in all its forms especially subconscious, institutionalised or background racism. It's far too nuanced and delicate a subject and just not a discussion that I think can be had constructively on here.

When Linsanity blew up, there was intense and widespread media coverage over why Lin was overlooked. The general consensus seemed to have been that it was because of his race. That had he been black or white, he would not have gone undrafted. Not because NBA coaches hate asians (which is what the term racist implies) but because most of us have unconscious racial prejudices and stereotypes even if we are decent, ordinary folk. Of course there was more to it than that and I'm summarising quite liberally here.

But the implication was therefore that all of the coaches and scouts that failed to spot lin's talent did so because of their underlying racial prejudice and that was serious egg on the faces of those people, a big question mark over their professinalism and a lot of public humiliation. You can bet that McHale etc felt the sting of this sentiment, whether or not it was justified.

Linsanity made him (and lots of other NBA professionals) look pretty clueless. I think Mchale's attitude and treatment of Lin have far more to do with the worldwide reaction to Linsanity than his own racial attitudes, whatever they may be.

Being able to say, 'Linsanity was a fluke, I knew he was crap, my initial judgement was correct,' is very important to a lot of people because otherwise, they might have to take a long hard look in the mirror, and no one likes having to do that.

People just don't like being told or being forced to accept that they were wrong. And that is more than enough of a motive for people to be prejudiced against Lin since his return to the Rockets (fans and coaches alike) without race coming into it. So stop putting words in my mouth and creating a strawman talking about who I did or didn't call a racist.

Not to say that race isn't an issue where Lin or Lin fans are concerned. It certainly is and I suspect has been his entire life.

 

The cap hit is 8.3 mil a year thats the only thing that matters to a team in terms of strategic planning for the future. 15mil is coming out of someone else's pocket and that has absolutely nothing to do with us fans.

 

Considering all the talk that already exists on the subject, I give this thread a PER (post efficiency rating) ranking down in the bottom 5%.

 

Look, you compare Yao Ming to a cartoon character. Get real. Show some respect.

Yao is relevant because YOU said there is an undercurrent of racism on the Houston Rockets and among their fans. Yao is the same race as Lin. Yao was on the Rockets. He is relevant.

Sorry that there was only one Asian on the team before, not twelve. There was also only one black president. By your analysis, I can't say "I have no problem with a black president," because I am only pointing to one person out of millions. To you, it only proves my racism to claim that I accept ONE black guy.

Do you remember Wang Zhihi, Yi Jianlian, Mengke Bateer? These guys are Chinese, they were in the NBA. Do you think that they also are better than their reputations, and they would have had better careers if it wasn't for the prejudice they suffered in the NBA?

Don't you think the owners in the NBA have an even stronger prejudice in favor of money and winning?

And what is your opinion on the "undercurrent of prejudice and race" (your words) faced by black players such as Thomas Robinson, Patrick Beverley, etc.? Do you honestly think that Lin would have had a better chance of being in the NBA (and going to Harvard and doing Volvo ads and all that) if he were born black? Here's some race info for ya:

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A black male born in 1991 has a 29% chance of spending time in prison at some point in his life.

Nearly one in three African American males aged 20–29 are under some form of criminal justice supervision whether imprisoned, jailed, on parole or probation.

One out of nine African American men will be incarcerated between the ages of 20 and 34.

Black males ages 30 to 34 have the highest incarceration rate of any race/ethnicity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistics_of_incarcerated_African-American_males
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Yeah, poor Jeremy's not black. What a raw deal. ENOUGH with the stupid-ass race ****, please!

 

Pretty sure your people still fuqing lost you little piece of shlt.

Go back to where you came from. And cream yourself (or your mummy knowing you) on the thought that you were superior once upon a time.

 

damn. he would have done well had he not been injured.

 

Blacks don't hate Lin. Some think he's overrated sure but never hate.

However some of parts of the demographic like OP here. You know what I mean.
:grin:

 

Lin is capable of producing 16 to 18 points, 3 to 4 rebounds, 7 assists, and a couple steals per 36 minutes.

If that sucks then I really wish more of our players would start sucking.

I'm not sure why you expected more than around 15 points, 3 rebounds, 7 assists, and a couple steals per 36 minutes in his first season as a full time starter on a brand new team.

He played about as well as I expected him to if not slightly better.

 

From what I read here, there was a lot of hatred towards Yao when we first drafted him, YOFs and YOHs existed. It only got better later. Another poster said that some of the YOFs and YOHs have become the LOFs and LOHs.

So, no racism, if someone hates African American but love native Africans what is that? Is that OK?

Well I don't you think you are the owner, or any Lin haters for the matter, Clutch once said: "it might be easier for you to take it to a LOH board."

Just because someone just joined doesn't mean they haven't followed the Rockets.

McFail was actually coined before Lin was signed, same with the "Official Fire McFail" thread.

 

Sorry, I won't, you could keep doing it tho.