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Jeremy Lin says he's OK with being Rockets' 6th Man

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Play07, Oct 28, 2013.

  1. apcgamb24

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    Completely disagreed, but okay
     
  2. Fighton

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    hahah.. stop... seriously, how many kids do you hear say "when i make it into the league, i'm gonna shoot for that sixth man role!!" ask any sixth man in the this league, and 100% of them would rather start.

    this whole lin for bev is not a demotion, i get that. just saying... it is what it is, and no need to put lipstick on a pig.
     
  3. keldraco

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    no 1 in the organization say that Lin is the 6th man of the team. He could very really just be another bench player who is better then other bench players.
     
  4. lfw

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    In my opinion, a true 6th man will regularly close out games, otherwise you are just a rotational bench player. We'll see what happens during the season.
     
  5. LikeMike

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    Ginobili is fine with it. I think Terry was fine with it as a Mav. Crawford got a lot of good press as a 6th man last season. It is not a young mans dream - but it is an important and a big role - and one that seems to be taylormade for Lin this season. He needs to be on the court when Harden is out.

    And another thing: this is not about making certain players happy. Coach has to do what he believes is the best thing for his team. He is not a racist or hater, his job is on the line. And his oppinion on this matter seems to be shared by a lot of other people. Oh, and Lin seems to be ok with it (not thrilled but ok), so why don`t the LOFs on this forum try to take his example and be ok with it as well?
     
  6. JayGoogle

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    How is that a good basis for anything?

    How many of those kids wanting to be superstars in the NBA even make the league? Yep.

    6th man role is an HONOR and I'm glad most NBA fans see it as such and that it has gotten more attention as the years go on. It is role that is asked a lot of.

    So you are telling me it is better to be Mario Chalmers than JR Smith or Crawford or even Manu? That's what Lin was relegated to being as a starter, a guy that HAS to defer to Harden, wait behind the 3 point line, and become more of a shooter.

    IF this role puts him into the position of running more of the offense for himself I believe it is better for him and the team. You can still be a star player coming off the bench, win championships, and even make the HOF. Not saying Lin will achieve those things but saying that him coming off the bench doesn't stop him from doing so.
     
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    At least some fans cannot complain the team don't start Bev and lead the team loss.

    They will focus on Harden TO and Bev foul trouble.
     
  8. imarealballer

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    Never go full r****d.

     
  9. imarealballer

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    Mchale has lied to lin twice now: first by saying that he had 2 starting pg's (bulls---, mchale decided long ago that beverley would start) and now by saying lin is the '6th man.' More bullsh--. Lin is a reserve guard who will play 20-25 mpg and won't sniff the 4th quarter much. Except perhaps in blowouts.

    This is what happens when you don't lobby for minutes and position yourself as the 'nice guy' whose everyone's bestie.

    Guys lobby for minutes. They expect minutes. When they DON'T, they get shafted and treated like a doormat, which is what's happening to lin right now.

    PT is contingent upon ability but public perception and politics can play just as large a role. Lin's got his head buried in the sand if he won't acknowledge this by now.
     
  10. Fighton

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    hahahha.. you're totally right. and he's just as black as coop.
     
  11. HTown_DieHard

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    Your contribution is invaluable to this forum.

    Do you hear it?.... I think your mom is calling you home for dinner. I hear she made Mac&Cheese with cut up hotdogs mixed in..

    Better get going... nom nom nommm
     
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    this is how it should be. Remember last year when we complained about needing Harden or Lin to play with the second unit? check

    The league today is filled with very talented point guards and we need/have a defensive specialist starting to mark them. check

    Since Harden is so ball dominant, he needs a back court partner that has a shot and doesn't need the ball in their hand to be effective. check
     
  13. ivanyy2000

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    Lin can dominate the ball from the bench? Who are you guys kidding with?

    Mr. Harden gonna play 35-40 mins every night regardless. How many mins left for Lin to dominate the ball? LOL.

    Let us just face it. Lin is getting demoted. Don't sugarcoat it. He will have a diminished role and he will continue the Houston Rocket starting PG tradition and out of town in a year or two, which is actually good for him.

    Good luck on the new season, though.
     
  14. jbasket

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    It is all about who finishes the game, and I can guarantee Lin will finish out the majority of the close games. I have been a 6th man before and know many other players in that position as well. It was not a slight to me; it was not a slight to them.

    What do you think Harden was thinking when Thabo was starting over him?
     
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    OKC would have been a better team if they started Harden...and amnesty Perkins
     
  16. LikeMike

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    No. Coaches play the players that will help them win - because if coaches lose too much, they lose their job. So they will try to find the best rotations to help the team win. It is not lobbying for minutes - it is not hating certain players. It is trying to figure out what gives you the best chance to win.

    Lying? Well first of all we don`t know what McHale said to Lin. Second of all, I don`t see a lie here. Both players could start, now it seems like McHale went with the modern approach (starting the player with less playmaking ability to have your playmaker with the second unit). And I think it is pretty clear, that Lin will get the most minutes of our bench players and be the first player of the bench. I also expect him to close out games (maybe not every game depending on matchup). So that is a 6th man role.

    Seriously, why do LOFs feel like Lin is a victim. He is a professional basketball player being put into a position to shine (next to Harden he would basically only be a spot up shooter). He is fine with it, so should you be.
     
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    I wonder what is going through the moderator's heads when they read this thread. Or do they skip that and just wait and see if something gets reported? Were they planning ahead for this moment? Do they have a cup of coffee by their side, or a beer? Cheetos at hand? Nuts in a bowl? Nuts would be more appropriate, I suppose, but cheetos have a very satisfying crunch. It's all fertile ground for exploration, and potentially far more interesting than the discussion actually taking place.

    Can we all agree that this is an explosion of stupid, whichever side of the conundrum that is starting Lin or Beverley we reside on? We may disagree as to which posts are stupid, but I doubt disagreement as to the sublime level to which is has risen.
     
  18. Karolik

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    The bench is the reason why Ginobili was never considered a superstar. Ask people who is better now, Harden or Ginobili in his prime. Most people would say Harden or at least it would be debatable. Ginobili, if he had started, could've put up 26+ pts per game. He basically sacrificed honors and superstardom for championships. So yes, the bench, no matter what role is a demotion and a clear one at that.
     
  19. JayGoogle

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    Ginobili is going to the Hall Of Fame. That is a lock.

    The only reason he's not a superstar is because of the team he plays for is known for being 'boring' and in a small market

    You can get a ton of popularity being a 6th man, look at Odom or JR Smith. It just depends on if a guy really wants that. Lin will always be a popular player and you can still make the all-star game as a 6th man.

    Harden was a 6th man and a rising star. He would not have become a superstar like now in that role because of Westbrook and Durant ahead of him...and for Lin it may be the same.
     
  20. TheBigFive

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    Well said. I don't mind if people think Beverley is the better player, or that Beverley should start. I think they are wrong but it makes for a good debate. I just think its disengenuous to call this anything but a demotion.
     

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