Jeremy Lin out 2 weeks with grade one knee sprain (UPDATE: Will return vs. Portland)

tbf, the initial flood of LOFs has really died down in the last half year or so.

 

Your joking. Parker hit 48% of his shots. That's great. Curry averages 3.8 turnovers a game He has had 7 games where he had 5 or more TO'o and he had one game where he had 11. Parker's TS% averages 11 th among PG's. I will next give you a of Beverly'e game's score's for the games in question.

Spurs game: Parker's game score 17.9 (His 4th highest for the year)
Spur's Game : Beverley's Game Score 14.6
Conclusion: Parker outplayed Beverly

Please don't weep when you see the Game scores for the Golden State Game.

GSW Game: Curry's game score 11.4 Beverley's Game Score -.1

Please don't continue this raving. Parker scored his 4th highest game score against Beverley and Beverley's game score is an embarrasment against GSW. BTW the game score takes into account TO's, Steals.

 

LOH = people who's sick and tired of all these Lin threads/posts when he obviously doesnt deserve them, simple as that....

you realize that's way too much attention for a backup PG right?

 

LOHs also people fighting against a phantom enemy by now. What are these threads about Lin you are so sick and tired of seeing? I see only one in the GARM front page right now (this one doesn't count as it started as one about his injury status)...and there are easily 1-2 or more on the front page for pretty much every Rockets player who gets sizable minutes.

 

the only reason I really see bev starting over lin is because we have no bench players that can score without someone making a play... lin owns any back up pg thats on the floor at the same time...... if lin starts over bev, then we have no back up scoring guard, AB0 is solid but I think lin is a better passer and defender

 

There are definitely a select few people who joined like that r****d roxlove who hasn't shown his face in months, so yes, there is.

 

"...maybe not jumping that high off that right foot, but I never jumped that high on the right foot anyway." Jeremy is funny :grin:.

http://www.csnhouston.com/basketball-houston-rockets/talk/lin-practices-says-hell-play-thursday

 

To be fair, "deserve" is a rather subjective term, and a bit Elitist.

A message board, like a democratic discussion, has its content determined by what *most* people want to talk about. Apparently a LOT of posters feel the desire to comment and debate in both directions. It's a popular topic as evidenced by this and other threads.

Or would you prefer that Clutch step in and start deciding what players deserve threads and which players do not deserve threads? Or perhaps you want some sort of "Rockets Loyalty Test" to exclude the fans that are unworthy?

There are threads that pop up that not everyone is interested in talking about. That's the nature of message boards. If you find a topic uninteresting, don't read it and don't reply to it. If you find a post objectionable, skip it or post a counter point. If you find a poster objectionable, then skip their post or ignore them.

Nobody FORCES anyone to read or respond to a thread or post.

I'm sorry, but complaining about the topic of a thread or post that you are NOT being forced to read or respond to seems a bit whacked to me. It's like protesting about the plot of a show you don't like... Nobody is making you watch. Feel free to change the channel.

Personally I think a lot of the LOF "pushback" goes to a deeper issue. I've seen similar reactions on other teams before when teams gain a new fan base.

When the Clippers became popular again, there was a lot of complaint about Bandwagon fans ruining the fan base. There were complaints that the new posters didn't care about the Team, or that they weren't there for the hard years so that made their opinions less important as fans.

There was complaints that the new fans didn't appreciate the hardship and the history, that they couldn't recall the hard years, or the stars of previous years and somehow that made their fandom somehow less valuable or authentic.

Others lamented that the Messageboard wasn't the same, and was being ruined by the 2011/2012ers. Or that fans were only interested because of "lob city" and had no knowledge of basketball.

Fan bases can be like private little clubs. Being a long time fan of a franchise can make you feel like you're part of an exclusive club, or something special forged in suffering, hardship or history. And an influx of "new" fans can make it feel like that sense of being special is being somehow Diluted and Cheapened.

Personally I view that as a false choice.

As a long suffering Knicks fan I welcome new fans, regardless of the initial reason they become a Knicks fan. Sure, they didn't see the Isiah Thomas years, or suffer through the disappointments of Eddy Curry and Marbury, or live through the train wreck of an Owner that is James Dolan. But why would I wish that upon Anyone?

Why can't I be a Fan of a team and still welcome those who are new to the fold? Aren't they supporting the team? Watching the games? Buying the merchandise? Cheering the wins?

Is it not possible to care about both individual players and the team?

Why is it so necessary in Sports and so many other facets of life to always turn something beautiful like Basketball and Sports into Us vs Them? LOF vs LOH? 2012/13 vs 2004? Player fans vs Team fans? Houston residents vs non Houston residents? Basketball junkies vs casual fans?

Aren't we all here talking about the Rockets?

 

I think most of us understand that it's not an either/or proposition, and presenting it as such just reflects your own immaturity.

 

Unleash the Canaan!

 

Becasse most of LOH sre the ones to stir the pot harder. Plus we have starting PG playing backup PG and backup PG playing starting PG. that's why there are so much attention going on.

 

Of course he didn't answer your questions lol.

But SAS/HOU was one of only five games this season where Parker's FG% was under 50%. He averages 52% on the season so far.

Steph averages 3.8 TOs on the season and had 8 in GSW/HOU.

ETA: To add, Parker's TS% this season is 56%. It was 48% vs. HOU.

 

Glad to see he will be back. I'm looking forward to having our core playing together again. Lin had been playing well in that sixth man role and he will definitely improve the bench once we get him back. Our bench has been playing well, but it gets frustrating at times watching them play hot potato passing the ball around the perimiter until someone takes a shot. Hopefully with these days of practice coming before the next game it will make for an easy transition and it won't be awkward to suddenly change up the bench lineup that had been solid. The more time they get to work together before the next game the better.

 

Those aren't LOH, they are just trolls. They are most likely Rocket fans who are sick of the Lin nonsense and are looking at ways to release their frustration. There are no I hate Lin websites, or Jeremy Lin sucks fan sites, like LOF's have.

The only reason I am perceived as biased is because of enormous amount of attention Lin receives and how much bad information is put forth supporting him.

I can make the following points throughout the day:

1.) Harden is a magnificent scorer and and a more than adequate defender when he tries, but has a problem with effort on that end.
2.) Dmo is a nice young player with tremendous upside however he can be a liability with his lack of experience, specifically defensively.
3.) Dwight Howard is an awesome defensive player but his apparent mental need to operate out of the post is a detriment to the team.
4.) Lin is a great ball handler and high character guy with some defensive issues and fit issues with our starting lineup.

All of that is perfectly fine and acceptable to say until we get to number four. THEN OMG OPEN THE ****ING FLOOD GATES because the Lin pity party parade is coming through. Racism! Double Standard! Incompetent coaching! So many haters!

I foolishly attempt to engage these radicals and then by making reasonable and well thought out points, I get 2nd grade analysis like Gene18 above. Did he answer a single one of my questions? Nope. Does any of the pity party parade objectively refute bad points on their own side? Nope. Do they ever admit he had a bad game? Nope. Just a bunch of "someone else's fault" or "not utilized properly", blah blah blah.

I have no bias. I have an audience of radicals with limited basketball knowledge and powerful feelings toward an average basketball player who can'y face reality.

 

Start from the assumption that coaches are rational and want to win games. There is a reason (or set of reasons) Bev is starting and Lin is coming off the bench. While the normal reason for this is that the starter is a better player, that doesn't always have to be the case.

It is possible the coaches think Bev will be better and want to give him a chance to grow, or that Lin will be traded and they want to avoid disruptions in the starting unit, or that Lin has a skillset that is unused next to Harden but valuable when playing with the bench. There are all sorts of strategic reasons they might want to go with Bev starting, and many of those reasons say nothing about the relative abilities of Bev and Lin as players.

 

Let me guess -- you're an optimist Or at least not a cynic. I think your point is correct, but I disagree with your (implied) conclusion. I think it is in human nature to want to be selective; to adopt an "us versus them" mentality. Isn't the whole POINT of sports to BEAT the other team? Having a better/winning team, taunting those who don't, etc., that's all part of the fun. If we loved each team equally, the sport would be a lot more boring for most people. Some basketball purists may enjoy it just the same, if not more, but it'd become an esoteric hobby for the select few (which is a bit ironic).

So why is it necessary to turn basketball and sports into Us vs. Them? Because that's the beauty of it all.

 

Don't care who starts, just glad to have Lin back. We need his scoring when shots aren't falling for others, and maybe his presence will allow Parsons to finally rest that back

 

I must just have the ability to skim over those posts and identify the ones that rationally disagree (but disagree nonetheless). Do you?

 

LOL, this guy again. His limited basketball knowledge is there for all to see in most of his posts. Lin more often than not closes tight games. Is it because the opposition is playing "weaker backup players.?"

 

If you weren't a fan of the San Diego Rockets, you are just another form of bandwagoner.