Jeremy Lin is a quality player - except on the 2nd half of a back-to-back.

Chandler Parson caught the same disease as Lin. Maybe they're taking this bromance to far, hmmm?

Shot 10% worst and score 3ppg less with no days rest which very similar decrease compare to Lin.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/splits/_/id/6466/chandler-parsons

Asik and Harden have minor drop off, but doesn't look like night and day compare to Lin & Parson.

 

he will be more conditioned nex yr

 

There are hundreds of stamina enhancement products, Lin should pick one for the sake of the team or linsanity.

 

It doesnt really matter. Even body builders (who suppose to be much leaner) do take them. Its all in Calories IN vs Calories Out.

The amount of energy these guys burn, man, its huge!

Jeremy is pretty lean and he is within the range for his height.

BTW, I do miss Hot-N-Now. they used to be famous in Michigan; although smaller in size costing just a buck!

 

The thing is, teams like to attack him on defense to wear him down. If you pay attention, it's not uncommon for teams to set 6+ screens against him in a single possession, where the PG just use one screen after another, which makes for quite a contrast to the reluctant screens from the Rockets' offensive strategy.

The Rockets' reluctance to screen for the ball carrier may be by design. In the Sloan conference presentation on player acceleration, they talked about the tremendous amounts of energy bigs spend coming out to set screens. The Rockets may be trying to conserve energy for their bigs to run (of course, one possible solution is to have a lot of quality bigs to rotate with...and by quality big I don't mean Garcia, Mr. McHale...).

The tremendous amount of energy Lin expends on defense no doubt has a lot to do with his dropoff on the second half of back-to-back games. The obvious solution is to rotate many bigs in and out (especially once Jones returns) and relentlessly set screens for Lin to match the screens being set on the other side of the ball, so opposing PGs will have less energy to spend on offense to wear Lin down with.

 

people, people.

this is getting ridiculous.

1st time playing a full season. haven't missed 1 game this whole season. chases around the fastest players on every team. and most of all, coming back from knee surgery.

of course he's gonna suck playing back-to-backs.

seriously you guys argue over the most trivial stuff.

 

Okay, thanks. My memory was more about in game fatigue than between games. I remember him having to come out after 8 minutes or so in the 1st quarter. But my memory is far from infallible.

I don't have the time to look for it. I said somebody MIGHT have done some study and I wouldn't be surprised. I do remember some years ago there was a study on the correlation of skin pigment and muscle explosiveness. People quickly called it racism. But it's just a scientific study. Would you call someone a racist or inflammatory if he/she studied how black people and white people were different in their proneness to some disease?

 

I once read this in-depth and quite scientific, but quite crazy, article comparing blacks and whites. The doctor measured the average differences between heart sizes, limb length differences, and skull sizes. Basically the doctor concluded that from the evidence that he found, blacks had longer arms, bigger hearts—so as to pump more blood and oxygen throughout the body--but had smaller skull sizes, which according to most, if not all, scientists today to be trivial when measuring human IQ. The doctor concluded, in a very scientific and polite manner, that blacks were basically less evolved than whites and were farther away from what are the homo homo sapiens that we all are today.

Turns out, the doctor was revealed to have a very shady past and was looking for his own truth, basically, seeing what he wants to see =/

Look, the majority of us are a little bit racist, and tbh, its is fine and actually spices up life. But when you’re trying to find ways to justify why one race can physically or mentally outperform another race, then you just might be a full on racist, not that you were doing so, I was just saying.

You’re statement, however, was very reminiscent of the last February during Linsanity. An example I’d like to use would come from Lin’s mouth. He commented on why people said he was deceptively strong or fast, saying to the interviewer, “do I look weak?”

You are no racist, but you are half-blind, just as I am.

 

Quality post. I think a lot of players have found that it isn't as easy to beat him off the dribble so they just run him through screens over & over. The Spurs, OKC etc employ that strategy.


I find it odd that people say Lin has poor stamina. The coaching staff said he is in shape & if anything I find that he is way better athletically now than he was in the beginning of the season which defies the notion that his poor eating habits are a problem. I have watched the vast majority of the games & I don't think Lin has poor stamina unless I am missing something.

 

He was completely gassed last game despite only playing 35 minutes. It's very visible that he has poor conditioning. Both the eye test and numbers test confirm this.

 

numbers confirms this, eye test does not. You're a 12'er like I am, so we both must remember what the commentators said about him in his first game against the nets. If you can't recall, the commentators said of Lin that he looked gas and tired, but then he exploded down the middle splitting the D for the layup, and the commentators said, "looks like he isnt."

See.. eye test is kinda silly in situations like these. But, he is playing a lot more defense now which I'm sure many ppl who play ball may attest to, is a bit more physically demanding than offense, particularly corner camping offense.

However, the numbers regarding his b2b games shows that he does need to improve his stamina or something...

 

Let's find something else to whine about....

Man, I have never heard such whining from a fan base of an OVER-ACHIEVING team in my life! Lin is living up to his contract and is AS GOOD as expected...no better and definitely no worse. He is young, talented, and our starting point guard. Get over it.

 

What numbers that he doesn't play as well on back to backs? There could be a number of factors that are responsible for this. And most players tend to struggle on b2b's. And Lin always looks gassed. Even in Harvard. People who played against him before just said that is how he looks. I find it very difficult to believe that he has poor stamina considering that would be the first thing he would improve upon this off season considering what he went through in NY. Also considering we hear no end about Omers conditioning problems, I feel like the coaching staff or Morey would have said as much already & McHales has said repeatedly that he is in good shape.

 

Most players have this issue. The NBA really should schedule B2Bs as little as possible because fans that pay to go to these games aren't getting anywhere near their money's worth.

 

Comparing PG vs PG drop offs on back to backs does have some value, however we do have to keep in mind that we play the fastest pace in the NBA, and Lin is also expected to play aggressive defense (not universal among PG's).

We should also be careful to not set a bar of stamina vs the players with extraordinarily high motors. Some players just have unbelievable stamina. This can be conditioning, or partially genetic, or just very smart management of their bodies during these periods.

I will reiterate, we should not underestimate the impact of playing a higher pace and fast break oriented game. If you have 4 extra possessions, that is most likely 4 extra times running the entire length of the court... and in our system, that isn't always at a jog. It's often at breakneck speed.

Sprinting down the court has a very different impact upon the body than walking or jogging the ball up. It impacts muscles differently and uses energy differently.

For example, running a sprint uses glycogen from inside the muscles, whereas a slow jog will consume sugar and fat. It's why they refer to the "fat burning zone" in exercise.

I honestly wonder how many of these PG's that don't have a drop off would do in a system like ours... where you're pushing the ball, on the break, and doing extra laps up and down the court due to the extra possessions. I wouldn't be surprised if they suddenly had more drop offs too.

 

^^^^^

 

Its great when you provide insights or break down numbers to people here on clutchfans...then 2 pages later it devolves into trolling or name-calling again and everyone forgets the common sense you provide. lol...Rockets are the highest pace team as well as Lin playing some hard D every game. Everyone here knows split sprints burn a lot more then distance running. Unless your seriously pushing a hard pace for long, long miles. Now add in defense, taking fouls, taking charges, driving down a lane into 3 bigs knocking you down every other play...oh and occasional 3 distance shooting. Lin is doing fine.

 

Remember when Lin's usage rate was low, Harden isos all game, and Lin is forced into standing in the corner to spot up and shoot 3s? Now he's like the hardest working man in sports entertainment.