Jeremy Lin is a large reason of why we lost this series

If is missed that shame on me. What got to me was the way you were defending LOH thread like this. At least thats what I got essentially from your prev comments. I was under the impression that LOF deserve these thread because they initiated the hate on everyone else from the beginning. Then you go on and give these lame comment examples from the worst of LOF.

Yet I haven't seen any LOF starting ridiculous bash threads like this...

Anyway, I got to get running for family BBQ. I'm sure you're a great person out of clutch forum. No hard feelings and non-taken on my end.

Don't hate the playa hate the game. PEACE!

 

That sounds so remedial.

 

Dude, you're wasting your breath.

King1, iJholmes and Superstar are three of the biggest Lin haters on here. It's utterly pointless trying to reason with them. All they do is hate and troll. Just put them on your ignore list and try to engage with the more reasonable/rational people of which there are plenty on these forums, though most seem to have abandoned the GARM because of the current flame wars and understandably so.

 

Can't see how you would miss it. This is not our first conversation. We agreed it was classless for people to bash Jeremy for playing hurt and it showed a lot of character on his end to try and play through inury. You have to be realistic. The examples I'm giving are a shared by over 50% of the LOFs on the board.

Then please look into Mchale (or "McFail" as LOFs have coined him) topics. McHale is every bit the coach that Jeremy is a PG. The benefit of the doubt is disctictively one sided.

Non hard feelings either. Enjoy your BBQ

 

Must suck to be so intellectually inferior that you have to resort to blanket statements. I feel bad for whatever gas station you work at

 

since you bring up my name. Like i've told every other person who has called me a lin hater, please find one post where i have ever said Lin sucks and you'll never see me post again. Report back with your results.

Thanks.

 

Regardless of what you think of his most ardent/nutjob fans, that should NOT cloud your view of Lin, he is what he is currently, an average point guard in the league. He is inexperienced at the NBA level, and it showed during the season at a variety of points. However he also showed flashes of what Morey hopes he can be, theres been more than enough games, since the all star break especially where he has shown enough promise to deserve alot more leeway then some 'team only' fans give him credit. People need to have some patience. Yes people kneejerk and love the shiny new toy.

One thing i think Lin struggles with especially is his mentality approaching the game (offensively) when his jumper is off. There are alot of PG's who have a shakey jumpshot that can still excel in certain areas. But with Lin it seems he is either riding high emotionally, got that confidence and aggression shooting the ball/attacking, or timid as hell if he misses a few jumpers, goes into his shell and doesnt attack.

That won't cut it from your starting point guard if we hope to go deep in the playoffs. But he has given no reason for us to think he wont get better, and to suggest he has hit his ceiling at his age is downright lunacy. We might not have even been in the playoffs if Lin didnt continnue to progress given Harden's struggles back 1/3 of the season.

 

Don't even bother with that guy. I know I'm not. Look at his post history.

I repeat, better than some, not ONE, but some of cp3, parker, westbrook, lillard, rondo, kyrie, drose, jrue holliday, steph curry, and dwill

The above example is one reason why trolls who bash on Lin for getting injuries exist. Because of posters like these who instigate them
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Instead of worshiping Lin, and thinking he is immune to criticism how about actually learning how the game of Bball works first?

I don't just criticize Lin, I criticized players that I believe have underperformed, and yes that includes Harden and Chandler.

 

I still don't know what happened to Harden in the last 2-3 months of the season. He looked like a shell of his former self. The only reason we continued winning was because players like Lin, and Chandler Parsons stepped up. Did you look at their post all star stats? I was surprised at their significant improvement. Chandler was playing like an all star.

 

I think it had alot to do with the knee injury he suffered. It could have been a myriad of different things, fatigue from his first year being a starter/number one option, But there was a marked drop off in his production after the injury he had, Struggled scoring at the rim/jumper suffered, free throws dropped off, and his lateral speed was gone (made him worse defensively) but the latter points to just not being 100% physically. The dropoff was exacerbated though given his MVP type month just before.

I was so impressed with Parsons. Especially the way he put the team on his back in game 4. I hope the Rockets are taking good care of him cause his 884k contract is pure robbery in this league...

 

you know why real rockets fans do not give a single fxxk about any of you lin only fans?? its because as soon as lin is gone, you will be gone. youre not rockets fans.. you root for the rockets because your favorite player is on the team.. i have been a rockets fan for 20 years, many here have been fans even longer, its comedy when i see a new poster question our allegiance to the rockets with comments like putting the word fans in quotations..

see the difference between rockets fans and lin fans.. lin will take a jumper and the rocket fan will hope his shot goes in. if aaron brooks or patrick beverley come in and take a shot, the lin fan hopes they miss it.. you guys have a bit of delusion in the back of your minds. anyone that says something bad about lin is a "hater." in the life of clutchfans there has never been a single rocket that was immune to criticism. in the history of sports message boards there has never been a single player that is immune to criticisms. so your situation is not unique.

 

okay, but i haven't even been alive that long, i think saying im an inferior rockets fan because of something like that is rather silly. Ive done my best to learn and familiarise myself with past/team/players/coaches, and garner an appreciation for the history of the Rockets franchise. Just because i started going for Houston when i was 14, and have only been going for them for 6 odd years doesnt make you better. But there is no need to denegrate Lin based on what some pie in the sky fans think. Yes it is annoying when people who are obviously here for one player start badmouthing the team/think hes god etc, but those that are reasonable in their expectations of Lin, support the team shouldn't receive any more ire than myself trying to justify that Bogut is still a monster.

 

best post in this thread.

 

You know, after more than a full season of this nonsense, I'm really curious as to why the board moderators allow this type of discussion to continue. At some point, you're letting a tiny vocal minority of the posters drive away the quieter majority who would actually contribute to good discussion, regardless of whether they are Rockets fans or Lin fans or basketball fans or even opposing team fans.

Those of you who like to categorize posters into LOF, LOH, etc. groups are only serving to erode the discussion, because it becomes less about the team or basketball and more about some sort of asinine meta-discussion on the nature of posters on the board. And it's not even a good discussion. It's akin to watching vegans argue with BBQ lovers. Like, at what point are you guys just yelling past each other?

No one wants to go to a party where their Uncle Jim is arguing with their Cousin Ariel about how she stole his lawn mower and his wife is a w**** and Grandpa Jack was right about you and blah blah blah blah blah. How about just not inviting Uncle Jim and Cousin Ariel to the party in the first place? Or maybe the rest of us will just not show up because we don't want to deal with it.

I know I'm new, but I'd like to be able to continue participating in the discussions here after lurking for over a year. At this point, though, after trying to invest in posts and threads, the psychological effort it takes for me to slog through the BS and get to real discussion is becoming too much. I would probably have been better off just continuing to lurk or trying to find another message board.

 

you took what i wrote and interpreted it that way.. i never said i was a better fan than you (based on years) i was just talking about the lin only fans.. its just funny when someone that just started watching rockets games because of lin questions the fanhood of someone who has been watching rockets basketball for 20-30 years.. i see it all the time, "fans" is implying that youre not really a fan at all..

 

Bravo. End of discussion.

These pathetic so-called "fans" (the LOF's, of course, for those who are dense) will have no reply to this, at least no cogent or coherent one.

 

Something saying bad about Lin and criticizing is civil; the unwarranted hate Lin and his fans got was not. Vastly different.

 

It's really simple TJ vs TR, this forum will always be like this unless Lin starts playing better and more consistent. You're not going to enjoy your stay at Clutchfans if all you do is defend Lin to the death from every criticism like a lot of these Lin fans like to do. There are some good Lin fans to me that seems to able to do fine such as , Roxxy, Pnr, Torocan, Akim, etc.

 

What language are you speaking?

 

Well, I guess it is what it is. Young player being inconsistent, big deal. It is certainly not out of question that people will learn to better support their players.

Again, I am very annoyed by this lump-sum, labeling, group/mob think over-generalizing thing. I am not like other Lin fans. I am not new to basketball, the Rockets or NBA message boards. I have been reading this board since 2001. As I remember it was much better back then, definitely one of the best forums in the internet. It is just disappointing.

Well, I am sorry to have behaved badly, how dare I not post according to the seniority here and defend a player I root for.