It's not that I don't think he can do well in Houston, I think he can. He may do abit better in a different team or system but I think with his work ethic, youth, BBIQ and size/skill he can do well anywhere. I don't think he will ever be a big stats guy but he is a player that can really help your team win ball games. The reason I think he should maybe leave Houston is because the fanbase here is way too impatient with him and genuinely don't want him and his hype to be on their team. I mean look at this thread, 50 pages FOR AN AIRBALL and half the posts are people b****ing about how much he sucks, dragic being 10x better, he's overpaid, he's a joke, never amount to anything, bla bla bla. This isn't normal anyway you slice it. this is an unhealthy team environment with undue pressure on young players and management I think the fans here want an instant winner and are sick of rebuilding. Like it or not JLin is still a project and I think he would be best served this year to just learn the game and not try to play superstar. The situation in Houston is just too volatile now, these fans are sick of these bandwagon Linfans and already went through this crap with Yao. They had enough I'd say. Bring in a steady veteran pg for Lin via trade and maybe try to get Bynum in the off-season then Rockets fans and LOH get what they want. The LOF's don't care where he goes they will follow him so they get what they want too.
What I am seeing is a free pass given for other Rockets - why is the entire conversation always about Lin's turnovers. 1 turnover = 1 turnover. Based on that absolute truth, you'd think that the turnovers by other players on the team would also be part of the conversation. Why isn't it? Harden's high of 6 Turnovers is 3 times greater than the roughly 2 TO average of Lin. Lin had 0 the game before Miami - but the most important turnover problem on the team is Lin? Harden has 32 TURNOVERS to Lins 18 this season thus far. Why isn't his turnovers part of your conversation? I liked your post overall but I want to understand your reasoning on why this is one of your main issues since it was at the top of your earlier post. I think Lin's head-space is the biggest issue at the moment, his shot, timidness, lack of aggressiveness, and not playing with confidence or energy.
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The thing is you think this is bad can you imagine Lakers fan site if Lin does poor? Lin would be getting killed on any other teams forum even the Sacramento Kings forums if he was a King. Lin gets to play a ton of minutes and doesn't have to defer to star(S) on a young team. That's an ideal situation compare to playing with vets and a fan base who are all about winning now. He would get ragged on worst if he airballed that as a Lakers.
As bad as Harden does with his right hand? Oh wait, I think SAS mentioned about turnovers also. Oh, that doesn't apply here for now.
See you're being reasonable here but this is not a reasonable discussion by these LOH's. Their point of view goes like this " Man these LOF's are really getting on my nerves, why is this Lin guy getting all this attention, must be because he's Asian. He's getting praised and cheered for every little thing, what gives? Thats it! next time he screws up I'm going to really lay into him just to get back at the Lin fans, screw this guy. WTF he just turned it over! isn't this guy supposed to be a turnover machine? that's what Stephen A. Smith told me"
He's partially responsible for his passiveness, but you cant possibly say he didnt get the memo from the coaching staff to defer to Harden. The problem is not that he defers to Harden, he should as Harden is the better player --- the problem is he defers to Harden too much. Under no circumstances he should not be the primary ball handler.
Yeah sure but that doesn't mean he gives the ball without making any attempt at breaking down the defense and just looking to pass the ball as soon as he gets pass half court. Toney Douglas looks to me like he makes more effort honestly in his limited playing time.
That's why its mainly the coaching, it doesnt make sense that TD actually had a higher usage rate than Lin in limited minutes. And of course, Lin should be reponsible for his passiveness as well.
You know I actually thought you were a reasonable guy for a while there. So we got 50 pages of people calling him a joke, scrub, fluke, overpaid and overrated. mind you this for putting up 1 airball vs the defending champs in a close game, mind you this is the 7th game for a team not expected to be contenders, mind you this is for a player who is 23 who is basically in his rookie year. So I guess if he was on the lakers there would be a 100 page thread with people putting out contracts on his life. You don't think this scrutiny is the least bit out of the ordinary? Really? Can you provide me a link to another 50pg thread calling a 23 year old player a joke & scrub for putting up 1 airball in a regular season game that means nothing?
Jeremy Lin has an unclutch moment with the Rockets. Then a 'fan' posts a knicks video of him when he has a clutch moment. It seems that some 'fans' can't face the reality of now and in some constant Groundhog day cycle that they cannot break. They are being transported back to Mike D'Antoni led Knicks days for shelter from his current situation.
Hey Aruba sorry for the slow reply. I disagree on his TO's they are significantly lower particularly his TOR has decreased from last year. In fact I am more worried about Harden's TO's considering the fact that he is the defacto PG. I disagree that he isn't doing a good job facilitating the offense. His AR is higher than league average & considering the fact that he isn't being used enough is telling it would likely be a lot higher if he was involved more. Also if you look at his assists leading to shots at the rim & 3 point shots (the most efficient shots in the NBA) those are also higher than league average. You are right he does have to play much better than he has thus far but for that to happen he has to be used a lot more & a lot more different than he has thus far. And he isn't penetrating or finishing at the rim because all of his shots are from corner 3's for some inexplicable reason. -_- Honestly if they just put Harden & Lin at the top of the key Harden on the right side (because he is left dominant) & Lin on the left side (because he is right dominant) that would yield better results. Lin camping at the corner 3 is just a disaster he has no space to operate/penetrate down there.
It's not just the airball it's the build up the entire game as well that I think fans have a problem with. I'm not going search fan forums for evidence of fans being too harsh or stupid there's plenty of it and easy to find if you look for it.
LOL. Teams are defending Tony a lot differently than they are Lin. Teams aren't packing the paint against Tony if you haven't noticed. Coaches are telling him to defer this much because they are still trying to figure things out. I don't mind him deferring I just want him away from the corner 3. Akim is right it is inexcusable that he isn't the primary ball handler.
Well part of the reason they can pack the paint is because they stay 10 feet away from Lin. I don't know what the coaches are telling him but there's plenty of opportunity for him to be aggressive.
They can pack the paint because the Rockets are shooting the most 3's n the NBA & hitting them at the lowest percentage of every NBA team. -_- No there really isn't plenty of opportunities for him to be aggressive because he was being increasingly aggressive in the first two games with harden & all of that changed overnight based on a coaching decision when they decided to implement a more structured offense (which actual sets) as opposed to letting Lin & Harden play street ball.
