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Jeremy Lin is a joke!!!!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Dei, Nov 12, 2012.

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Is Jeremy Lin a joke?

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  2. No :(

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  1. Guitardude

    Guitardude Rookie

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    I find it laughable how Harden was just paid $80 million dollars, is said to be the franchise star, has the ball in his hands 90% of the time, and takes the majority of shots, yet Lin is the one taking the blame for losses...? IMO, this is definitely a race issue. The bottom line is Lin is too talented to be shooting only 8 times per game. He should have the ball in his hands as much as Harden, take more shots/risks, and grow as a player. He shouldn't let his crappy coach and ballhog teammate (Harden) tell him what to do.
     
  2. real_egal

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    Sure it is one of the set plays, but I can't believe any coach would tell his starting PG - you MUST give up the ball to Player A, and park at the corner, on EVERY SINGLE possession. Just look at Lin's facial expression, do you see fire? He's just too passive right now.

    Again, coaches can't and won't dictate every single play on the court. Players need to take their own initiatives - you either want the ball or don't.
     
  3. kastuul

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    For reference,

    Lin is the 13th best defender during the last 7games.
    His point per play is 0.59.

    Harden is 189th, PPP 1.03

    Parsons is 71th, PPP 0.77

    Asik is 40th, PPP 0.68
     
  4. gtmkcp

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    Thanks for the stats. Some people just seems to not want to acknowledge that he is a good defender.
     
  5. MT1417

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    Why am I seeing this so much from Lin fans? No confidence that Lin will eventually play well without D'antoni? Or do you agree that he's only a product of the system?

    The best way for him to shut most of his critics up is for him to play well anywhere he goes. Granted, we may not be using him the right way or playing him to his potential, but he has got to realize that and be more vocal about it. He needs to be tougher. Otherwise, how's he going to survive in the league?

    I trust and hope that he'll figure it out with the coaches soon, else he's not going to be very effective in this offense. His stats will also suffer and it'll be more legit to declare him overpaid.
     
  6. jaedenky

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    That would be an ideal situation, Nash is 40 and retiring soon, Lin is young and can be mentored by Nash & Kobe. LA with it's high Asian population would surely embrace Lin.

    Maybe the LOH & LOF can actually work together for once and pressure the front office for a trade? Maybe if JLin airballs a few more shots then the backlash from the fans would create enough pressure on Morey to make a trade?

    How about JLin to LA for Blake and Jordan Hill?

    I think the salaries match too. The LOH's get a serviceable veteran pg in Blake that they can relate to more than Lin. And LA get a young player to help start their rebuild once Nash & Kobe are done, also the marketing potential is huge with LA's asian population.

    Come on LOH's, let's work together on this one and get Lin outta Houston. Email the rockets, start petitions to trade Lin and start more threads like this one. If we put enough pressure we can get this done. Both LOF's and LOH's will benefit from this, we should work together for once.
     
  7. real_egal

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    Some of them have never heard of coach D or any coach in NBA before Linsanity. Once he performs poorly in Lakers, if their dream comes true - Kobe is too selfish, Nash plays too much, Howard doesn't like Lin, Gasol only wants to shoot jumpers, and coach D yields to Kobe too much, LA fans are too ignorant.
     
  8. kastuul

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    The worst defender in starting five is Harden (189th) and PPT (71th)

    Harden did a terrible job in D
    ISO
    H 40% L 12.5%
    P&R Ball Handler
    H 70% L 42.9%
    Spot-Up
    H 41% L 25%
     
  9. Coban Hutton

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    It sounds like a better idea the more it's mentioned. If Houston wants a spot up shooter, there's Derek Fisher to be had for the vet min.

    I doubt the Lakers want to pay 8mil for a backup pg, that's almost what Nash himself makes.
     
  10. kinein

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    Why is he still labeled with a turnover issue. Have you even looked at his stats in TOs in comparison with Harden? Asik? The team? The league. Calling you out. Get your numbers right. Aruba
     
  11. jaedenky

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    I thought that players were payed a yearly salary based on the year they will have not the first seven games. alot of those other players have not played up to their salary in the FIRST SEVEN GAMES but you don't hear the constant b****ing about contracts with them.

    IMO, JLin in a much better player currently than Jack/Miller, better defense, steals, boards, passing, intangibles, more unselfish, better BBIQ, better trade value. IMO his age is an asset, younger players are more valuable due to upside and athleticism. IMO JLIn is bigger, more athletic and has more of an impact on the court than Jack/Miller. JLin is a better player and asset, and yes I think he worth 3.5 million more than Jack/Miller.
     
  12. Swaggerific

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    I swear, had Lin knocked down that 3 or Harden let him take the last shot and scored the game-winner then this thread wouldn't exist and everyone would think he's the best.
     
  13. SuperStar

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    LOF fans won't benefit from Lin moving anywhere. If he's not playing well or if they don't play him at all the lofs will want him out of LA and so on. It doesn't matter where he goes. The one thing that's the most annoying about lofs is that they think he would do better on a different team. The truth is if he can't even do well in Houston, he won't do well anywhere else and will receive the same amount of criticism no matter how big the city's Asian population is.
     
  14. kastuul

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    TD is 164th, K-Mart is 150th

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    It's really too bad he didn't choose LA instead of GSW. He had an offer with them, but choose GSW instead. Anyways it would be great for Lin, however, it's also true what others said he needs to learn to play under the system he's in. There is a pecking order in the NBA and Lin is not at the top on this team. Perhaps as he develops and have more experience, he will have more of a say. Plus wherever any player goes, if they don't play well, they will be criticized and the Lakers' fans are some of the most crazy fans. I mean they sent death threats to Blake's wife and also to Mike Brown's son just because the Lakers were losing.
     
  16. kastuul

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    For the 7 games offense ranking,
    Harden and Lin is 108th and 203th

    They really need time to figure out how to play together

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  17. IBTL

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    yeah and if hitler had won we would all be speaking german and rocking little mustaches
     
  18. Aruba77

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    He's 20th among PGs in assist to turnover ratio. Agreed his turnovers are down overall, but he needs to continue to improve.
     
  19. kinein

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    No commentary on the 5 TO per game Average for Harden?
     
  20. gtmkcp

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    I think you're really just being really critical about this one aspect of his game. What do you want no turnovers? I don't think other PGs get this scrutinized for their turnovers.
     

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