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Jeremy Lin is a joke!!!!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Dei, Nov 12, 2012.

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Is Jeremy Lin a joke?

  1. Yes :)

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  2. No :(

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  1. WaitForIt

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    Disagree here since Lin was signed before Morey was able to trade for Harden. Unless you truly think Lin would have the same numbers without Harden.
     
  2. yummyhawtsauce

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    agreed with everything you said, except 2 things to note:

    1. Lin is an NBA player and is among the 100 best players in the world and you are not so his potential for elite level play is far more realistic

    2. He has had great games even for Houston so i don't know where this fluke nonsense still comes from, but hey, common sense doesn't exist on this board
     
  3. shortfuse3

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    Yep Lin has pretty low BBIQ. If you put Steve Nash's brain in Jeremy Lin's head we'd have an MVP type player. Jeremy's been able to get by with his physical tools (great build and incredibly quick first step), but his IQ of the game is sorely lacking.

    Too many mistakes that remind me of a junior high player. What other NBA PG will jump in the air with nowhere to go?
     
  4. AvgJoe

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    This may be a surprise to you....the answer is a lot.

    Lin does it more often because of whatever mental problems he has, but jump in the air with nowhere to go is pretty common to PGs. Just not as often.

    Would rather him shoot a wild shot, which is what other PGs do more often when they are in that situation.
     
  5. shortfuse3

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    Like who? It's PG 101 to keep your dribble alive. I can't think of any other PG in the NBA who stops his dribble or makes careless TOs like Lin.

    Certainly not the all-star PGs like Parker, Paul, Deron Williams, Irving, or Lillard.

    Even guys like DJ Augustin always look like they're in control with the ball.

    Heck just look at our other PG, Patrick Beverley. He'll never pick up his dribble with nowhere to go, and rarely will he have a bad TO.
     
  6. Play07

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    Not sure what's going on now in this thread? I was at the game in OKC here's what I saw.

    1st half - 2 of those turnovers where kinda weird, he was driving tried to layup but got stripped, I thought it would've been a shot attempt or a foul, but they marked it as a TO. He tried not to pick up his dribble just finish like harden in paint but got stripped.

    Other one was a bad pass him coming over a pick to get ball at top, was low, thought that would've been a TO on player that gave him the ball not him because he never had control of ball.

    2nd half - team seemed to play better when he was in there, in the 4th you could tell he just turned on a switch and was more aggressive trying to WIN. One play when he drove picked up dribble he literally had ball for 3secs not ONE player moved to cut or come to ball... if a player would've easy ran helped would've been a quick midrange instead players watched then I think Garcia put his hands up without moving with a player right in front of him that caused a steal.

    End- Bev came in they went on a run fans got crazy. Rockets did almost come back but bev and Westbrook thing and bev 3point foul changed pace. Harden was forced to try to do everything. If mchale would've left Lin in instead of benching him for that one lil TO I think he would've scored at least 6 more in the 4th. And we would've had a more balanced offensive attack. If I was the coach I would said F it keep Lin in for more offense he proved he could show up game before, and Lin had already turned the aggressive switch on
     
  7. shortfuse3

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    Amidst all of this though, it's really a testament to the physical gifts Jeremy has. He's bigger than most PG's and has a very quick first step. Even if Canaan is good, Jeremy still has a higher ceiling because of his size and athleticism.
     
  8. napalm06

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    Your point stands, but there are several more than 100 players in the nba.
     
  9. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    Any TO that results from Lin picking up his dribble is not little and deserves a benching. I personally feel McHale should bench Lin every single time that Lin does that.
     
  10. AvgJoe

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    Have you not seen PGs taking wild shots driving into the lane? They are tough shots, or forced shots. Lin's problem is he rather pass the ball off when he can't have a good shooting angle, that is why his drive field goal percentage is so high. You rarely see him forcing a shot. Personally, I rather him jack it up than pass off and TO a live ball.

    If you look at Bev's drives, he rather forces a shot. The only good part of that is there is a chance we go for the offensive rebounds, and delay the fast break.
     
  11. FeaR

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    And also don't forget there is Euroleague ... Jeremy Lin isn't better from most of the players in Europe ... People believe that everyone from NBA can dominate European Leagues:rolleyes:
     
  12. Dei

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    Like who man?
     
  13. shortfuse3

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    I think the point is, Jeremy has low BBIQ which explains a lot of his inconsistency. He's like JR Smith. When he's on, he's on, but when he's off, he's really off.

    You can't teach BBIQ. You either have it or you don't. You can become more selfish or less selfish, but you can't learn something that's inherent.

    Jeremy's a Harvard grad so he's obviously a brilliant guy, but BBIQ is an innate feel and knowledge of the game that players either have or don't have. For instance, Parsons is a really smart bball player, who rarely makes mistakes. Steve Nash might have the highest IQ for a PG in the last decade.

    Jason Kidd also has high IQ and he's now coach of the Nets. Most great PG's could also coach their teams if they wanted to. You think Jeremy could coach a team? I didn't think so lol.
     
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    In fact, if we had to have a player on this Rockets team to coach the team for a game, I think most of the players would want Beverley as the coach, with Parsons as an assistant. Bev commands respect from everyone, while Parsons is a great people manager.
     
  15. AvgJoe

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    I don't know about his BBIQ, but he coaches a team:

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    Chris Paul has been doing a lot of careless dribbling and has often looked lost in Doc Rivers' offense this year. Blake Griffin has been the better true PG on that team (so has Collison). Paul is having a down year by his standards, especially his shooting. All PGs are like QBs in today's NBA. They have more responsibility in today's NBA to make plays; they have to make decisions; and they will make mistakes. In Lin's case, I do agree that keeping the dribble alive a second or two longer is something for him to work on, but he really isn't allowed to get into a rhythm as a ball handler on this team so mistakes will happen from time to time because much is asked of him when he's on the court (as compared to Beverley).
     
  17. AvgJoe

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    Bev and Harden both do it. Harden much better at drawing a foul, but when he doesn't get the call from ref, he just throw it up or gets stripped and turn it over.
     
  18. larsv8

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    Looks like Parsons is doing the play, not Lin.

    Maybe they just gave Lin a clipboard because he can't remember instructions and has to write everything down?
     
  19. yummyhawtsauce

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    Are you saying the rockets don't respect Mchale as a coach?
     
  20. AvgJoe

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    Pretty sure Harden and Garcia were looking at the clipboard. So they must have forgotten too right?
     

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