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Jeremy Lin is a joke!!!!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Dei, Nov 12, 2012.

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Is Jeremy Lin a joke?

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  2. No :(

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  1. Harden2Dwight

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    Dragic

    I hope Morey is watching this. MVP chants. Morey is seriously overrated. Dragic and Harden backcourt would be nasty. SMH!!!
     
  2. olajuyao

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    Wow gogi! Morey you douche! :mad:
     
  3. Nanisteru

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    Eh? This is the exact same thing you posted in the new thread about Dragic (See below). Is it that hard to keep things in the correct discussion thread instead of being such a drama queen?

     
  4. knickstorm

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    what?!?! there's no argument he's got a lightning quick first step. He can't always be in attack mode because 1 bad pass and a miss shot and turnover means he's goes straight to the bench. He needs a longer leash. Not hard nosed is inaccurate too. He takes plenty of shots, half the lay ups he makes he's getting knocked down. He draws plenty of charges, and hustles. If he was making 500 grand I bet people would see him as hard nosed.
     
  5. Jt29

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    Do u hate him r love him?
     
  6. TTNN

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    I heard JVG talking about inconsistent, but I'm pretty sure he was talking about a inconsistent TEAM is simply not a good TEAM.

    TEAM is different from a single player, as a team has multiple players, thus a good team might have individual player not have a good game on a given day, but a good team would be able to find a way to have a good team play.

    I don't think any good player could have very "consistent" production through out a 82 game season, as a person, you would always have time that physically different from day to day, game to game, and as an individual, there is very little room to adjust to changes such as minor injury, fatigue, even hot or cold in shooting.
     
  7. Zboy

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    Nope.

    He specifically talked about inconsistent players.

    He pointed out the fallacy in the statement "if only this player was consistent, he would be such a good player. He is NOT a good player BECAUSE he is inconsistent." He was talking about any player , in general, and not Lin.

    And I agree 100%.

    The question that the Rockets management and coaching staff has to ask is...

    In a seven game playoff series, how many good games can you get out of Lin?

    Superstars will show up for almost all of the games, good players will show up for most or at least more than half of the games, and the rest you cannot count on, because they might give you 2-3 good games or really nothing at all.

    Right now, I consider Lin in the third category. Based on his history we should consider ourselves lucky if we get 2 good games out of him in a 7 game series, and that is provided he does not have a deer in the headlights look once again when he starts to feel the pressure in the backcourt.
     
  8. LosPollosHermanos

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    Eh, maybe one game at most.
     
  9. Phillycheese

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    What do you define is a good game from Lin? If he puts up 11 shots a game consistently that means someone will have to get less. Should he be the type to get his 11 shots no matter what or should he contribute where he can? In the Kings and Lakers games, Lin was not needed to score and he didn't so he was said to have a bad game. In the Clippers game, his scoring was needed, but the coach never played him, so how can you say he had a bad game. When he was in, the team came back or did not let the Clips get too far out. It was the starters that lost that game, and McHale's unwillingness to trust Lin to deliver after he started 2-8. If McHale left him in and they still lost, then one can say he had a bad game, but saying 18 min constitutes a bad game is unrealistically high expectations.
     
  10. N/A

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    It's one thing to be inconsistent in the same role and entirely another to switch back and forth. Had he been used the same way he was used in NY then we'd be having a different conversation. We'll never know though. As bad as he is a SG he's a great PG that runs the pnr that was intentionally marginalized for a guy who can play great without the ball in Harden. His failure was written on the wall as soon as the decision was made to give the ball to Harden.

    As for playoffs, to be fair he's been injured twice in the past two years. He doesn't really have a playoff history to judge on especially when OKC is the first opponent.
     
  11. tinman

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    Injured twice in the past two years for the playoffs is not good.
    Considering how many years the rockets gave him for his contract, he needs to play well in the playoffs.
     
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    I hope he can, but almost every national TV game we've had he's sucked, which is a bad omen for the playoffs
     
  13. Doktor Mndbndr

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    More and more, it seems that Lin's not fully recovered from the back injury. You can see he's not quite physically right. And this may have consequently affected his mental game.

    But his role is clear: play the Beverley role. 3 and D. Plus a bit of playmaking, being in attack mode on offense in an opportunistic way. Do the little things, and do them well.

    Do it all consistently for the rest of the season. Without the weird mental mistakes.

    Most of all, he has to accept his role as a spare part of a guard, that he's not part of the Rocket's future, understand that it's a business, that he's unlikely to get traded these two seasons, and don't sulk, don't have confidence issues about all that.

    Because he seems to take everything personally: not starting, not finishing, having a short leash, not being part of the team's future, not playmaking even for the second team, being on the trade market, etc.

    He's gotta be like a utility man, or what was said about TJones before he cratered, a "garbage man" who just takes advantage of the eclectic opportunities as they come.
     
  14. N/A

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    not sure how you fault a guy for getting injured. That's something that's out of your hands. Ask DRose.
     
  15. meh

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    By this logic, you're saying that the longer Lin stays in the same role, say play as the backup PG to Beverley, the better he'll produce, correct? That he might play badly the first few games as the backup, but eventually play better, right?
     
  16. Soft Takes

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    Lol what? I think you're confusing yourself a little there friend. He said lin is a better playmaking point guard than a shooting guard, very true. They brought him in for this purpose but if he takes the ball away from harden he is scolded. Hence, "inconsistent". :)
     
  17. tinman

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    D rose performed great In the playoffs and took his team to the conference finals.

    Jeremy Lin has done nothing. In the few minutes he had in the ok series he looked horrendous .

    Lin fans need to stop make incredible baseless analogies , don't ever try to be lawyer.

    You don't get 5 to 10 years to prove yourself in the playoffs.

    The rockets aren't going to wait on players to get healthy.

    This is a win now team.
     
  18. Htownballer38

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    Man Lin needs to play ball and don't worry about whatever role he has to play. Go out and take full advantage of the opportunity that is presented to you. It's all about the team. Ask J. Terry, J. Crawford and M. Ginobli, these players do whatever it is to help their team. Whether it's come off the bench and provide that spark or be that 3rd scoring options as a starter.
    Hopefully Lin gets it together before the playoffs starters.
     
  19. aelliott

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    Huh? McHale has consistently said that Lin needs to attack when he's in the game. When was he ever "scolded" for taking the ball away from Harden? We play at a very fast pace and Harden is averaging 16.4 FGA per game. There's plenty of FGA to go around. The Rockets would love for Lin to be aggressive every game but he's not.

    As far as the argument about changing roles my response would be that it was working great early in the season so what changed? Lin was thriving while coming off the bench some, starting some, playing PG and SG. So why is that suddenly a problem?

    The issue here is performance not roles or fit. Lin was playing some of the best basketball of his career earlier in the year and now he's not. So what's changed between then and now? His role and his fit are the same as they were back in November.

    Lin is just having a bad stretch in the season. That happens to lots of players and it wouldn't even be that big of an issue if it wasn't Jeremy Lin. Unfortunately for Lin his fanbase tries to sell him as a star and that sets him up for criticism. Is he a "joke" as an NBA player? No, he's a solid NBA player and most teams would love to have him. Is he a "joke" as an NBA star? Yes because he simply isn't that level of player but neither are 90% of the other players in the league. It's just my opinion but I believe that the criticism of Lin is directed more at the idea that he's a star or budding star than at the actual player himself.

    BTW I do realize that I'm replying to stuff in this thread that didn't come from you but it was easier to do it all in one place.
     
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  20. Texanswin2013

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    Says the fool who created an entire account just to talk about him
     
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