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Jeremy Lin is a joke!!!!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Dei, Nov 12, 2012.

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Is Jeremy Lin a joke?

  1. Yes :)

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  2. No :(

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  1. DudeWah

    DudeWah Member

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    I thought i'd dumb it down for you and bring up an example that even you could understand.

    Here i'll try some more since you're a little bit challenged.
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    Brad Miller (also an undrafted player) when he first came into the league showed potential to be a very solid player. However, he was stuck on some bad teams in Charlotte/Chicago at that point.

    When he was traded with Ron Artest to Indiana (his home state) he really got the chance to flourish and I think we all remember how strong those Indiana teams were.

    After he was traded to Sacramento he really established himself as one of the better big men in the league and probably the best passing big man since Vlade Divac.
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    Glen Robinson was filling up stat sheets in Milwaukee with Vin Baker and this guy named Ray Allen in the mid 90's.

    Did that Bucks team amount to anything though? No.

    I mean that dude was seriously balling back then. It wasn't until after Baker (an all star) was moved and the team acquired Sam Cassell (a Rockets' great pg) and Ray Allen started to come into his own that the Bucks became relevant.

    Robinson had been dropping very good stat lines for a long time though.
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    My case in point is that team record or playoff success doesn't have anything to do with the talent and potential of players. It takes a team effort to win. Not one player. However, a weakness at even one position can drag a team down.

    It's easier to lose than it is to win because winning a team game consistently needs many people to do well. Losing can be caused by even one weak link.

    That's my whole issue with Jeremy Lin. He is not starting pg caliber.
     
  2. munco

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    The airball sucked but this is the bigger issue IMO. Lin hasn't been playing pg the last few games. I know Harden can be a playmaker but he's not a pg and shouldn't be the primary pg for most of the game. It not only hurts the team it also seems to be hurting his effectiveness and shooting. Then they have Lin camped out as a spot up shooter. Makes no sense at all.
     
  3. xclearscreen

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    yea and he's already pretty much been shunned by the whole Knicks team for going up against Melo and yelling at Amare for missed rebound. and New York pretty much ran him out of town. Lin is being very careful not to step on anyone's toes. it's hard to be aggressive when you're worried about those things and when you're worried about getting yelled at for not going along with the coach's plans.
     
  4. Akim523

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    What? My deity Lin? Ptt, Im an atheist and theres aint no space daddy.

    1)Ive never said Lowry and Dragic are stat padding on bad teams, stop putting words in my mouth. They are the focal point of the offence on their teams which are mediocre, not bad, not great but mediocre. Both of their usage rate is much much much higher than Lin's which is the main reason their stats look better, so far.

    2) No there's no conspiracy, no one wants Lin to look bad its simply how the back court is structured and coaching, Harden needs the ball in his hand to be effective so does Lin, but at this stage Harden is the better player so I have no problem having him handle the ball most of the time --- but it hurts Lin's production and effectiveness playing spot up shooter which is also true. Haralabos Voulgaris is a sport bettor/stats guy who has mentioned this in his tweets, having Harden at the back court hurts Lin's production. Ask durvasa who he is.

    3) Lin is not the second option on offence, Chandler Parsons averaged more attempts. Dont ever bring up beasley or scola or derozen/bargnani again, they are not ball handlers, they dont have the ball in their hands all the time. Harden does and he takes most shots....by far. A PG cant do anything without the ball in his hands.

    4) It's true, Lowry's usage rate is 28%. Goran Dragic is at a healthy 20%. James Harden? 28.3% leading all shooting guards.

    Jeremy Lin? 19%.

    Mchale was simply bull****ting.

    Again, being logical seems to be too difficult for you, I don't expect you to understand.
     
  5. spdngyns69

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    Tony Douglas air balled his last game. Give him 5 years and he'll be Lebron guys, book it.
     
  6. DudeWah

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    Have you seen both of their respective 3p%?

    Kthxbai
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    Also, they're not playing next to James Harden. I can just imagine Dragic drilling wide open threes from those sweet Harden passes.
     
  7. Horry4theWin

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    He doesn't need to completely stop but he himself said it was crazy. All that traveling takes away from your body, no matter who you are but at least playing some 5on5 would have helped him.

    He brought his shooting and conditioning coach, but that's not actual game experience. Compare that to the previous year where he actually played basketball in China and then played some summer ball in exbition games.
     
  8. BEAT LA

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    I still believe the Lakers will win the championship, but Lin deserves the criticism. PG and center are the hardest positions to play, so I will give him time. The thing is he looks like he's regressed a lot since receiving his payday. I know he's on a new team, but he is still the starting PG who has control of the ball, offense, tempo....and yet his game in no way resembles what we paid for.
     
  9. Karolik

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    You realize Dragic has only 1% more usage than Lin right? You just completely killed your argument. :grin: And I am a Rockets and Lin Fan.
     
  10. roxxy

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    I disagree. He did the same exact thing he did during the lockout this summer. It is irrelevant to me that he did it in Asia. What is the difference between him training 5 hours & then sleeping on his bed in Texas as opposed to training 5 hours & then doing some charity event in Asia? If he didn't train and focused on his public events only then I would be pissed but he did the exact opposite. As long as the training is in there I am chill. Sorry but you won't convince me that he didn't work hard enough this summer because I can see the improvements in his game (minus his shooting -_-)
     
  11. bucky99

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    Well, Reggie White was one of the baddest, physical, NFL players ever. Why do people turn basketball into race and religion? Let's keep it to sports.
     
  12. zdrav

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    What are you talking about?

    According to ESPN, everybody on the team was cool with Lin running the team, except for Melo and his lackey, JR Smith.

    Most Knicks fans were ready to run DOLAN, not Lin, out of town for not signing Lin to a contract.

    You're living in an alternate reality, my friend.
     
  13. CoolColJ

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    Lin himself said he forgot trying to please everyone, play safe and not make mistakes (in Golden State) and play his game in NY - the result Linsanity

    WTF happened to that? He is now trying to please others again...

    basically he needs to tell Harden and coach to ***** off! :mad:
     
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  14. EarlIII

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    Lin is a PG? All I saw was him giving the ball to Harden and then letting Harden start the offense while he goes camp on the 3 point line.
     
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  15. xclearscreen

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    funny you talk about team effort and not like Lin's game. if he's allowed to play as a point guard then this Rockets squad would make a pretty formidable team. instead, as it is right now, isolating Harden all the time doesn't really scream team effort.
     
  16. munco

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    You aren't watching the games if you think Lin is our pg right now. For whatever reason he's a spot up shooting guard. Watch the last few games again. The Rockets have Harden running pg which is making him less effective too
     
  17. iconoclastic

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    During Linsanity, there was no Melo, no Amare, just all role players around him who didn't demand shots and wanted Lin to make every play, which he could. It was a perfect storm basically. Now, he has to share the spotlight with Harden and, to an extent, Parsons, and he hasn't learned to stick up for himself among wolves yet.
     
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  18. Exel

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    Rofl. Dragic is shooting 31% from three point land. Lin, 30%. What a huge difference!
     
  19. Dei

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    Douglas doesn't do it though. It can't be coach command.
     
  20. Akim523

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    Troll alert, James Harden and Lowry's usage rate supported my analogy and thats sufficient. Dragic's 20% usage rate is suprisingly low and it only proves that he's a better player than Lin given the similar usage rate, which I never argued against.
     

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