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Jeremy Lin is a joke!!!!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Dei, Nov 12, 2012.

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Is Jeremy Lin a joke?

  1. Yes :)

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  2. No :(

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  1. ctry2582

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    Lin is going through a slump, but, I'll never call for his head like half of the board does because he was a key part in getting the Rockets into the playoffs last year. Along with Asik. Along with Harden. He was a little above average/reasonably good last season in his first full season, coming off an injury. Asik gets demoted because we get the best C in the game, and he whines and makes trade demands. Lin loses his job to Bev, just because he 'fits' better with the starting unit. Lin doesn't complain, and accepts his role. Even now, he just rolls with it. That's a team player.

    The thing is, I think McHale needs to let him be a ball handler when he gets into the game. The game dictates him basically standing in the corner, half the shot clock gets dribbled out, and then he's pretty much asked to make something happen.

    We've seen what Lin did last year. We've seen him fill in for Harden and Bev admirably. He's just going through a slump. He'll rebound, as we've seen he puts in the work to improve.

    At the end of the day, a Bev + Lin duo is pretty much the ultimate PG. Bev brings on the ball defense,being a pest and rebounding, while Lin brings a deep shot threat and the ability to attack the rim.

    I've been here since 03 before a Jeremy Lin, so I'm far from a LOF. However, the posts about him are disturbing. He gets singled out when the Rockets struggle, and he gets singled out when the Rockets win. A lot of you guys need to calm down. The Rockets are playing great ball with a new starting C. New starting PF. A second year SF. A second year starting SG after and a new starting PG who was overseas last year. The Rockets are fully healthy, so hopefully they'll continue to gel and get that top 3 seed out West.

    The Rockets will be ok.
     
  2. hlmbasketball

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    I really think that's the problem, he's been going crazy a lot lately!! He ran into Harden and nearly broke Harden's arm and he airballed a layup last night....airballed a layup...damn.
     
  3. hlmbasketball

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    Agreed! That's enough about Lin
     
  4. ThisVoice

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    I agree with you for the most part. This will be Lin's last year as a Rocket. With the way he plays recently its tough to trade him in the offseason

    However, I've watched every games so far this season, there are times when offense is stuck and Lin can push the pace and change the tone of the offense, like a catalyst. But now that the starters are gelling, I can see what you mean by that.

    That is all he can offer to this team, an offensive spark. Maybe Canaan can give us that, but playing in D league is totally different than playing in the nba
     
  5. naesoon

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    See, this is a perfect example of how Lin gets singled-out. Thanks for pointing that out. As if Harden, Parsons and Bev have never air-balled a shot. There were a number of games where I was scratching my head where Bev wasn't doing much in the game and even made an appearance on Shaqtin a Fool - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R52c4-_ZW8[​IMG]

    I laughed at it, but I didn't go off on this anti-Bev rage. Everyone goes through slumps and makes mistakes. Lin is going through one and it won't last.

    Anyways, I just wish Lin had Bev's grit. I guess that's why the coach likes playing both of them together.
     
  6. dobro1229

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    Lin makes things happen for better or worse. That is who he is. He can win a game for you just as easy as he can lose a game for you.

    People are going to drop their mouths when I compare Lin to these players but just sit tight-

    Jamal Crawford, Nate Robinson, JR Smith, Nick Young, etc. are players that often or used to get a really bad wrap for this exact same style of play, but then whenever they are playing at an elite level they remind you of the talent they have at the end of the day to score the basketball.

    I think Jeremy Lin is going to end up being one of these polarizing players lumped into this category throughout his career if you take the off the court and personality out of consideration. There is nothing about his game that makes me think he's going to all the sudden completely change as a player and not be who he is.

    That's why McHale and co. were quick on the trigger this season to move Lin to the 6th man role. It was obvious to them and mgmt more than it was to the fans or to Lin himself because Lin doesn't have the reputation that a guy like JR Smith or Nate Robinson has even though they very similar players at the end of the day.

    Last night against the Suns, Lin contributed to 3 consecutive possessions in a row in a crucial part of a close important game where he directly contributed to a turnover or poor shot selection. One of his turnovers was caused (i believe) by him trying to make a no-look pass to Dwight when it was completely unnecessary.

    At the same token, Lin could have very well come in there and contributed to 3 possessions of quick baskets that completely turn around the game, making the same plays, but catching the defense off guard.

    I think people take Jeremy Lin the person (who is by all accounts a GREAT person, and extremely easy to root for), and confuse him with Jeremy Lin the player, and find a hard time putting him in a role that is usually reserved for someone that has a poor reputation on and/or off the court. However at the end of the day, they are still all very like-minded talented basketball players who work best in this type of role.

    I think that role is something the Rockets need, but not on that contract which is reserved for a completely different type of player all together. Did Morey make a mistake in signing him.... not at the time at all... is it a mistake now....?? That just all depends on whether good Lin or bad Lin shows up whenever they need good Lin the most in the playoffs or in big games. The fact is we are stuck together for the next season and the remainder of this season. He's really the big wild card going into the post season this year and next.

    The idea of Jeremy Lin being relied upon for as much as he is needed for now is going to be a bit scary, but he at the same time he still has the potential to have big performances for this team for the remainder of his contract.
     
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    Yeah but that is not what the OP wrote at all. If you read it.
     
  8. Rox11

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    Do you know when this thread was made and what it was about?
     
  9. GoRox2013

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    But the difference is Bev changes the game in other ways. Bev might get a key rebound or totally shut down his man during a stretch. Lin can't do those things consistently. If his shot is not falling, Lin disappears and becomes useless. He's basically a turnover waiting to happen
     
  10. THE DR34M

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    Against the Suns last game, we had 21+ turnovers!
    This is unacceptable!

    I believe this is also a big part of why Lin was dropped in favor of Beverley. If Lin can get better handles and decision making, up to the level of Bev and Harden, he may have a chance to get in the starting line-up again.
     
  11. Houst0ne

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    Lol funniest comment in this thread
     
  12. ccrystal99

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    Lin had 2 of those 21 turnovers, so what are you saying?
     
  13. fxbillie

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    Agree. Lin played bad last game. At least he had 6 dimes and in a close game like this when he is not one of the key players, his 6 dimes contributed to the win. So on this team who hadn't have slumps? Parsons had stretches his 3s all but disappear. Howard sometimes had 5 boards when TJ had 15. And our beloved Bev sometimes went 1/11 and zero assist. Give the kid a break. If he really is that useless and bad, trade him before he totally loses his confidence by all the attacks and hate towards him from Houston's fans. A Lin without confidence and playing bad will not help the team get some value asset back.
     
  14. ccrystal99

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    Whatever, when Lin has a few bad games, all demons come loose.
     
  15. hlmbasketball

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    I'm through with explaining Lin's basketball skills but you can't compare Bev falling down and trying to make a play, to Lin in full stride with one man to beat and airballing a layup.

    And don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing Lin. I think his story is one to be proud of, I just don't think he is a 6th, 7th or 8th man on a winning basketball team. He just need to cut back on the constant mistakes
     
  16. Liberon

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    Lin goes through way too many slumps. That blown lap and stupid touch down passes are a culmination of his regression this year. I hate his in place bounce pass where he leaves the ball hanging before a teammate receives it. He's scrub to the nth degree and will probably find a way to avoid playing in the Play Offs which might be a good thing...
     
  17. fxbillie

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    Exactly. Very biased against Lin indeed. Bev plays good ball pressure defense but opposing pg still scores big against the team. Did he shut down Dragic last game? Lin had a stretch he shut down all stars pg like Parker, Conley, Holiday etc. But very often Lin's defense got trashed so much here that it isn't funny. When Bev had bad games with 1/8, 1/11, or zero with low assists, very few 'dare' to criticize him. Lin had 6 assists in what people consider a bad game for him. All hell break loose. 6 assists mean 12 points. Consider we won by a few points, you can say he had contributed in the win. Why all the hate?
     
  18. naesoon

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    many people keep complaining about Lin's TO problems. So the only way to resolve this is to allow him to play longer and keep shooting until he get gets 18+. It doesn't matter if he plays inefficiently, just so long as his scoring looks good. This is what Harden does, right? He plays about 40 minutes, has the ball most of the time, is TO prone and has the green light to shoot as much as he wants. He scores high enough,...who cares about his TO problems! oh wait, except Lin doesn't get to play that many minutes, doesn't have the green light to shoot and is not in control of the offense, he's not even really a PG...everyone else is. So that's why he keeps getting attacked for the TO problems (even though he had 2 last night) because his scoring has been recently low. hmmmm, Lin, what is wrong with you! Yeah, you're not as good as Harden, but just keep shooting and care about your own scores! they key is to play longer minutes! hahaha, if only if it was that easy for him.
     
  19. THE DR34M

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    C'mon Bev the the darling of this board and Lin is the most hated (you'd think he wasn't a rocket). If you haven't figured this out you're as bad as the Bleacher Report writers trolling around here for info and opinions. Just go with the flow and enjoy trashing Lin.
     
  20. ThatBoyNick

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    I got to admit, he hasn't seemed to improve much this season, he started hot but his number have averaged out with last seasons.

    This season
    12.8 points 2.6 rebounds 4.5 assist 1.0 steals 2.9 turnovers in 30.7 mins shooting .455% and .345% on 3's

    Last season
    13.4 points 3.0 rebounds 6.1 assist 1.6 steals 2.7 turnovers in 32.2 mins shooting .441% and .339% on 3's

    He's getting paid 8.3 million a year, and isn't a starter. I love Lin, but him in Houston isn't looking so great right now.
     

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