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Jeremy Lin is a joke!!!!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Dei, Nov 12, 2012.

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Is Jeremy Lin a joke?

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  2. No :(

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  1. mike_lu

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    Until the next Rockets game where Lin either plays well, or plays poorly.
     
  2. NotApollo33

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    Have to honest. His left hand layups looked Wade like yesterday.

    Tho. there were only 3. I was orgasmic. Hope he keeps it up.
     
  3. andersongo

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    Great post. Different players have different skills sets. Some are rhythm catch and shoot players, others are better when shooting off the dribble. Lin's was recruited as a PG who can distribute the ball well, can shoot some mid-range jumpers and is elite at driving and finishing at the rim (qualities that were in full display yesterday). Spot-up shooting is not his strong suit, who will pay Lin as a spot-up shooter? He's crap at that and will continue to be crap at doing that on this roster until he is traded to another team as he is not a great fit with Harden and their skills are redundant. Many posters tend to assert as fact that Lin not being a spot-up shooter means that he has no other valuable skills which is just ridiculous when the guy is playing as a starter for a full season for the first time and is not even being played in his best role most of the time, hence not being allowed to carve out his niche. Who can hit shots from everywhere and and in all contexts apart from the very elite players? Most players are specialists and it is up to the coaching staff to use them properly or else it will just be a big fail.
     
  4. liunatic

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    I agree with everything you are saying. I will say that I never said that JLin doesn't need to blend his game in with the rest of the team - that is extremely important. I was just saying it's ignorant to think that a player sucks because he's not playing to his "statistical strengths". I think he has been playing well, though his stats may not reflect it.
     
  5. duluth111222

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    Yeah, asking a guard to shoot or finish better is the same as asking Shaq to shoot outside jumper....:confused: Shaq can thrive without a jumper because he's DA MAN in the paint. Lin, on the other hand, is quite limited if he can't improve his shooting.

    We're not asking Lin to play center here for crying out loud.
     
  6. DudeWah

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    A little while ago you were saying how Lin gets no opportunities to drive because opposing defenses don't allow it. Now apparently opposing defenses do allow it and Lin takes the opportunities he has.

    You keep shifting in your stance.

    Are you DD's new alternate ego?

    So since we've established that Lin does take the opportunities to drive when they are allotted we can go back to one of my main points. I'd like to see something happen directly because of Lin's drives.

    Either:

    1) A direct assist to a teammate for an easy bucket
    2) A basket from Lin


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    It is an excuse. When the Timberwolves 8th grade B team can beat you on any given night, it is an excuse. Every NBA team defends. Being the worst at it is saying something but it's not saying that much.

    You're right, I don't need to count anything since you've finally conceded that Lin does get opportunities to drive.

    Maybe after paying closer attention you'll notice that these hardly result in anything tangible happening.
     
  7. Falcao

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    I think you actually understand the argument, but you are making it too complicated.

    Substitute Rondo for Shaq above.

    Now do you understand? You have someone who many consider one of the top 2 or 3 PG in the league, but he would suck if the ball is taken out of his hands and you make him primarily a shooting guard.

    Honestly, what's so unreasonable here? Just let Lin play PG, like Boston lets Rondo. He may not be as good as Rondo now, but he may very well be sooner than we think.
     
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  8. tinman

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    Falco

    Nobody can forecast the future, so therefore people must judge based on the current. You can say Rondo or John Stockton or Magic, it doesn't matter.

    Just because of some kid can write a piano song doesn't make him Amadeus.

    SSSSSSSuperstar

    SSSuperstar
     
  9. RedEyesKirby

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    There's no difference between what he says and how people say that he'll never be anything more than an above average point guard. Why you just pick on what he says is beyond me.
     
  10. tinman

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    People talk about what he will be and don't like to talk about what he is.

    What's wrong with an above average point guard?

    The Rockets have not had a steady real point guard since Kenny Smith.

    A guy who:

    controls the tempo
    runs the offense
    has low turnovers
    hits open jumpers
    makes free throws
    sets up the star scorer and other teammates
     
  11. PRaZe

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    I have no idea where you guys who keeps saying Lin is not getting used right.

    but these past 3 games Rockets are using Lin to orchestrate the offense more now than it was before.
     
  12. RedEyesKirby

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    People here actually likes to talk about what he will be and in here it's usually that he will attribute to be nothing more than average which surprises me more than anything.

    And there's nothing wrong with being above average, but what's wrong with being a superstar? The rockets haven't had a superstar PG since... ever.
     
  13. tinman

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    Calvin Murphy made the hall of fame and helped the Rockets to the NBA Finals.

    Steve Francis was a superstar, he played PG, but he was more of a scorer.

    Kenny should have made the all star team during his first few seasons with the Rockets, he was awesome.

    Sam Cassell became an all star with the Clippers, but everybody knew he was a baller since the Rockets.
     
  14. GSWSFG49ers

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    Lin could play. Rockets coaches let him play point they win. They let harden play point then a losing streak happens. It could be because of lin whos not a spot up shooter to complement harden but even if thats the case and rockets pick up a spot up shooting pg for harden and who knows if rockets would win. Its a big question mark but for sure it would make things much more smoother. They put Lin back at point they win. Theres a trend there. Harden though could run the point but he cannot break down defenses as well as Lin is able to. In my opinion to completely solve this the rockets problem they need or should get a spot up shooting pg for harden who could also be used as a backup pg for for Lin?
     
  15. RedEyesKirby

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    Yes that last comment was made as an exaggeration that it's been a long time thank you very much. But we both know that Murphy and Francis was famous for their 2 guard plays more than anything. The other two are totally controversial.
     
  16. tinman

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    Kenny and Cassell split time. When Cassell was a full time starter for the Bucks, he and Ray Allen were the best 1/2 combo in the league IMO.

    You got mid range and long range jumpers raining and clutchness all over.
     
  17. liunatic

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    Nor is that what I'm saying. Refer to the example of Rondo. If you force a player to play out of style, of course he is going to look bad. You aren't going to force Shaq to play like Mehmet Okur, just like you aren't going to force Rondo to play like Stephen Curry.
     
  18. SuperStar

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    Every point guards style should be "hit wide open jumpers" :( but sadly not all can do it.
     
  19. AggNRox

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    i don't think ppl mean the last 3 games. ppl talked about games, especially those 7 games losing stretch when james was playing more PG than lin.
     
  20. youngduck

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    what if eric bledsoe came to the rockets and replaced lin, would he have to become a spot up shooter too? eric bledsoe isn't a great spot up shooter same as lin.

    earlier in the season mike d'antoni said that pau gasol would have to shoot 3's.

    so a player who isn't being used the right way is acceptable? he better hush up and just play, right?

    you gotta be kidding me.
     

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