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Jeremy Lin is a joke!!!!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Dei, Nov 12, 2012.

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Is Jeremy Lin a joke?

  1. Yes :)

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  2. No :(

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  1. dobro1229

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    You know, there is alot to like about Jeremy Lin.

    -I love his work ethic and hustle
    -When he's aggressive and in attack mode he's a beast
    -Seems like a highly ethical guy
    -High upside
    -Big box office pull

    but holy damn... when he's off(which more often then not), he's really, really horrible. He's timid with his shot, tries to draw fouls instead of making shots, and tries too hard to make the difficult pass when needs to just make the game more simple for the other players on the court.

    I am not a LOH, or a LOF, just a guy who wants Jeremy to get better because the honest truth is that we are stuck with this guy for the long haul. So he has my support, but he sure does make me yell at the TV screen more than any other Rockets player.

    Even though Harden is the best player on the team, and is going to get all of the praise when they are doing well, and none of the blame when they are playing poorly, Lin just seems to embody everything about this young, dumb, inexperienced bunch of knuckleheads(I mean that in the best possible way).

    Lin is the posterboy for the super highs, and the oh so gut wrenching piss poor lows that this team will have the majority of the time this season until they(hopefully) turn the team around.
     
  2. cfansnet

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    Nice. Attack the person instead of presenting facts. Good for you!
     
  3. Bublanski

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    great post.

    he has way too much arc on his shot. He needs to flatten it a little to add some guidance to his shot. its the complete opposite of chandler parson's shot which is too flat and needs more arc.

    Lin needs to watch how steve nash plays inside the 3 pt. line.

    nash pulls the trigger on floaters and mid range jumpers, stop and pop, scooping layups all inside the 3pt line. nash's mid range game during his prime was amazing and its something for lin to emulate.

    right now, Lin gets to the paint and instead of popping a jumper or a floater, he hangs on to the ball too long, kills his dribble, then has to look around to pass the ball back outside.


    its very frustrating to watch.
     
  4. Dei

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    I requested this thread closed a while back since we're not really talking about the topic anymore and the LOFs were being monkeys but it seems Clutch called it otherwise.

    I personally think this forum's well moderated although it does have a, and I hate to use a political term here, liberal, left-leaning crowd and culture. I've been banned, given infractions, neg repped through the years, a lot coming in recently, actually, but reasons were provided and I can see they're coming from an intent to keep the place relatively classy and PG - not that I'm saying I'm remorseful for any of the things I've been penalized for (well, mostly not). It's the crowd, mostly, that does the actual "moderation." If there's an idea(, or poster,) is unpopular, the thread'll get flamed - but the moderators and admins keep that thread open.

    So I honestly think the LOFs are ungrateful, disgusting creatures to barge in here and, outside of being very rude and unruly, make accusations to how this place is run without even making an effort to know the crowd and owner.
     
  5. IronicMan

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    What do you expect? A low class person gives a low class response.
     
  6. dobro1229

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    I really dont think its any one thing. I think the 3 point shot is important to his development, but so are alot of things.

    I guess, my point of that post though is that I really see Lin as the posterboy to the super highs, and the oh so lows of this freshman Rockets season.

    Lin certainly isn't the only one to blame, but I just think its funny that his season has sort of embodies this Rockets team in so many different ways.
     
  7. mirus

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    no i think you are pretty clear,and this roster sans harden on offense have me in joy and frustrated in so many ways.i hope he practice his 3 pointer in particular off in all star break.
     
  8. dobro1229

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    We aren't turning this into a Harden Vs. Lin thread like you are probably wanting to. Harden has had a poor stretch of games on this roadtrip, but he's hardly been having evenly distributed highs, and lows this season.

    We are talking about someone who is in the top 5 in scoring in the league, and has been on the national stage has had his name thrown there as a potential MVP candidate. That's not my opinion, that's the opinion of guys like Magic Johnson, Michael Wilbon, and Bill Simmons.

    Yes, he has had a poor couple of games, but lets just back that thought up here for a second please.
     
  9. Bball_4life

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    Wow, that is the most uncivil statement I have read on here, and you have the nerves to call ppl "very rude and unruly". I think you should look in the mirror and call yourself that; what a hypocrite, lol.
     
  10. Kwame

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    Could the Rockets even get a 2nd round pick for Jeremy Lin, especially with his contract?
     
  11. mirus

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    :confused: I'm saying I'm not worried about harden on offense,and I think he'll be fine thats all.I'm also saying other guys sometimes shows potential and sometimes they plainly sucks which frustrates me .All i'm saying is i'm agreeing with you.I'm saying you express yourself pretty clear and the other poster just misunderstood your points. I'm rooting for this team - bcos its a team i want and my own home team could not be like this.I like Harden a lot,and considered myself a fan ever since last year.
    The only thing I'm worrying about right now is coaching.

    And I never said anything bad about harden or having a hand in any of those crazy arguments on loh vs lof you can check my posting history.
     
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    I think you just pointed out the fact that no other players are running off the ball when Lin is trying to make a play. Lin needs to make his shot but seriously, he will be at most an average shooting guard if his teammates are not running for open spots. He is just not someone who are good at making plays by himself like harden. Lin offense at least needs another guy.
     
  13. dobro1229

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    Sorry, misunderstood your post. Hopefully that will at least prevent any back and forth finger pointing from the crazies on here.
     
  14. Exel

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    It would easily be the worse trade in history of professional sports, but to answer yes. Most teams under the cap would do that in an instance.
     
  15. TheGreat

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    Obviously hes going to be inconsistent.

    This guy is a flash in a pan type player, there is a reason he was almost out of the league for good.

    Keep your expectations low.
     
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    his teammates are not running. Lin is good at finding people that are open. he suffers when no one is trying to make himself open since his threat actually comes from that ability to distribute the ball.

    Mchail's system emphasiZe a lot on not clogging the paint. What actually happens is that no one is in the paint when Lin is trying to make a play. He is not a guy who can Jude drive to the basket without help. he needs either a PnR to get his advantage on his first step or needs someone at the paint to pass to.

    he is just not that good at iso
     
  17. New

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    His game runs through his teammates. That's exactly the reason he got undrafted. he is just not that good by himself.
     
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    The sad part is McHale's offense is like the D'Antoni offense, but without the complexity and subtlety of the D'Antoni offense.

    D'Antoni relies heavily on 3 point spacing, but he also has sophisticated multi-layer screens, chained picks, frequent cutting, curls and decoy moves.

    McHale basically parks the players, runs a single PnR (usually High), and a handful of staggered screens for shooters.

    The idea of spacing the floor with shooters isn't bad in itself, but the current incarnation of McHale's version of the offense is tactically weak when compared to what D'Antoni creates.

    For all the perceived weaknesses of D'Antoni as a coach, nobody ever complained that his offenses were predictable or easy to guard.
     
  19. roxxy

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    Something I really want McHale to do is have Harden get more of his 3's off the catch & have Lin shoot more of his 3's off the dribble. Right now he has it the other way around. Last year a lot of hardens 3's were assisted in OKC. Harden has been really struggling with his outside shooting lately & Lin still can't shoot a 3 if his life depended on it.
     
  20. cyclorider

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    Lin is fine. He just needs more rest, which means fewer minutes on average.

    I know the LOF would like Jeremy to play 48 minutes, but that's not realistic and that's not good for his performance.

    Jeremy performs best when he averages around 30 minutes.
     

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