Keep this thread on, so we can all look back at the end of the season, and see how truly stupid some people are.
You left out Rocket fans that are Lin fans, there are many of us here. You make it sound like the only ones supporting Lin are the LOF's. By the way I see that you just got here, which is fine I don't have any problem at all with new people, I think it's great. Did you come here to be a Rocket fan or Lin hater?
If you are a rocket fan thats also a Lin fan, that just makes you a rockets fan. Many of us are fans of harden, but you dont see many people calling each other HOFs. If harden is doing bad, people say something about it. He's been scoring 25+ for a long time so other then turnovers theres not a lot you can say about harden, but if he was having piss poor performances such as Lin, this forum would be lit up and on him about it. but most fans, we wouldn't be making excuses for him because we're rockets fans. we're here for the team not mainly for one player. I came here as a rockets fan, like ive said look through my posts in the gametime threads, i make posts about all the plays. I call out asik when he does something stupid, 2pat and others, Lin to me has higher expectations then asik and 2pat. As someone being voted into the all star game and from the people here saying he's a superstar, id like to see that backed up with numbers, so of course i get frustrated when he's playing like he's scared and jacking up bricks. Who doesnt? It's not because he's Lin its because he's a rockets player that isnt doing good. same goes for others on the court.
if words hurt your feelings you should consider buying a plastic bubble to crawl in to. This site has been up and running for over a decade. The "moderators" have done a good job separating nonsense from mere controversial statements and have been damn good arbiters of the 1st Amendment. If you can't take a diversity of opinions (even moronic ones), stay off the BBS. Either way, you are not in a position to demand anything from the moderators. The site worked well long before you got here last year. In fact, the only thing i would change is the influx of LOFs that have infected the BBS with their enormous race-driven hard-ons.
Dude is inconsistent as **** and probably hiding injury if not somewhat of a bust. Too bad there's really nobody available to replace him that's any better for the money or is there?
Still hasn't played a full season, Im sure the coaching staff is letting him know what he needs to fix. He's not a dumb kid, and neither is the coaching staff. Lin still has a full season to develop, and possibly 2 more. I dont see morey letting him go, and remember some other stars in this league took more then one season to come into their own. People b****ing about his contract is definitely fair, but I feel is unwarranted until his third year. If he hasnt developed and improved his third year i can understand the b****ing. But right now its kind of over the top because its his first year starting, still hasnt played a full season. The amount of hate he gets right now is bull****, anyone here would take 25 mill contract in a heartbeat. Give him until his third year, and if he hasnt improved, I get it. Morey took a gamble on this contract and everyone wanted to restart the team. Thats exactly what morey is doing right now. 186 pages of hate for a first year player who did what anyone else would do and accept 25 mil is really stupid. He's still developing and morey has the patience. he can always drop lin later on and work his magic to find a better PG if there's no improvement. Upside is what everyone hopes for. This is a waiting game with Lin. Hating on him every other game is rediculous.
OK, I'm not a fan of the LOF/LOH wars. But this post is really funny. Ynnis : I'd say just learn how to use, and then aggressively use, the ignore list feature; and avoid threads like this one if they bother you. Askin Clutch to shut the thread down, isn't going to make the hate go away.
This. I will support Lin because he is on the Rockets but he needs to start contributing and he needs to start doing it soon. Sometimes I forget that this is basically only his second season, but a 34 mpg, 8 million per year player, needs to start making his mark. Outside of a few steals and layup here and there, he is basically a liability on the court. Its almost like Rafer Alston redux. I am a firm believer that a player is not what he will be until his third year, so I will be patient with him, but by the middle of next year we should know if he is going to work out long term or he needs to be let go.
Response It's not a good fit for both Rockets and Lin. I sincerely believe that the Rockets management would not have signed Lin had they known they would get Harden. I would have liked to see Rockets play some games without Harden though, to see how they would have played without him.
I think the jury is still out. You know that Clyde Frazier/Earl (the Pearl) Monroe thing from the 70s. It's worked enough times ... Knicks games, Bulls Christmas game, Memphis, Lakers game, that I think Harden/Lin might be able to do it. Eventually.
Putting this here for anyone who doesn't know of this history... The Knicks parted with Mike Riordan, Dave Stallworth and cash to obtain Monroe. New York managed to retain the core group from its 1969-70 championship team, but not everyone cheered the trade. Critics questioned whether Monroe's one-on-one style would clash with the team-oriented Knicks, who stressed defense and unselfish basketball, and whether he would fit in the backcourt alongside superstar and archrival Frazier. At first, Monroe had trouble adapting to the new system in New York. With Frazier in the driver's seat, Monroe handled the ball less than ever. (x) "People said we'd need two basketballs,'' Frazier told me last week. (x) But it worked out... But during their second year together, Monroe and Frazier began to complement one another well. By season's end they looked so good together that reporters were referring to them as the "Rolls Royce backcourt." (x) Frazier himself thinks so: Knicks legend Walt Frazier compared the pairing to the Knicks’ backcourt of himself and Earl Monroe and said making it work is “just a matter of time.” [...]Frazier said the questions about the Rockets’ backcourt are similar to when the Knicks traded for Monroe, except he was a top rival. Frazier and Monroe won the Knicks’ second title together. Both are in the Hall of Fame, with their numbers retired in New York. “It could happen for them because Lin likes to penetrate and dish,” Frazier said. “Harden likes to go to the open spot and shoot the ball.” (x)
I am assuming that u were not watching their games recently to say that JLin is not contributing to the team...take note how their offense sucks when JLin is not running the point...aside from him no one from the team is able to run the point as good as he is...granted he is inconcistent offensively but right now he is the only rockets who dedicates his energy in the defensive end..
I Know heater! almost 40points to spurs , fastes pace offensive in the league leading by lin this guy its a joke lin´and the team will prove it sooner or later
Thanks for the info. Will there be any article showed that how Clyde and Monroe did it? e.g. what system they run or how they played off each other? Thanks in advance.
I get the old Knicks backcourt comparison it's a legit argument, even lebron and wade took time to click but the difference here is those guys are, we're hof Allstars. That only relates to one guy in our backcourt. I'm so sick of hearing that Lin is a Allstar player because of 10 games. That's just not the case he's a nice young player who has some potential but I have yet to see and superstar games from him. Do you guys remember when flip Murray had a 10 game stretch to start a season for Seattle and was putting up 25 for that stretch? We're is he now? My point is Lin should play well in any system no just d'ntonis who's not a good coach anyways there's a reason why he's been fired everywhere he went. I'm gonna give Lin alot more time but the fans saying the coaches/harden r holding him back need to chill out its annoying. He hasn't done anything to warrant that. Iv watched pro basketball for over 20 yrs and I just dnt see the superstar potential and that's not me being a hater. I see him being a nice starter at best. He can't shoot and has poor 1 on 1 game those ate the two things you need in order to become a Allstar in this league.
I've been a silent lurker here for a long time before I decided to create an account and I've noticed one thing...almost all your post is about JLin..if he is playing great u are nowhere to be found..if he had some off-nights,Expect that ur post will be the first to be seen...if it's not hating I don't know what to call it anymore... If ur a rockets fan then u should understand and appreciate Lin more for what he is giving to the team..it's an automatic thing for u to bash him and ONLY him whenever the team loses...u always find fault on his game... And labeling fans LOF though it's not particularly offensive but u make it like it's a bad thing for the team..Lin fans are not dumb as what some of the people are trying to portray here..we've followed Lin from the start so we know his capabilities and what he can give to the team..some fans may come across as offensive but I'm pretty sure they were baited into it... And can u honestly say that Harden and Lin are in the same level in terms of their status in the team...is there a game in where Harden was benched because he is having a pissed performance? We're he got benched when he was playing poorly at the Cav's game? We should be thankful that Lin is a team-first player because if he a Westbrook type, Harden would not have seen the ball in his hands anymore..u can't even give Lin props in trying to get Harden into his mojo whenever he is having a bad night..what u only see is that Lin sucks offensively, he turns the ball over ( though Harden was worst between the two ), he is a bad passer..etc..etc.. I just hope that the next post I can see from u is a positive one..
You must be talking about Knicks games because here in Rocket land, Harden sets up the offense. Jeremy Lin might be labeled a point guard when Harden is on the court, but he functions as an ineffective SG. At this point I am much more comfortable with Toney Douglas on the court than with Lin. And his defense is good, not great. Parsons, Asik and Patterson are far more impactful defenders.
