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Jeremy Lin is a joke!!!!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Dei, Nov 12, 2012.

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Is Jeremy Lin a joke?

  1. Yes :)

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  2. No :(

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  1. SuperStar

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    Superstars can play with anybody dude. Lin needs consistency to be even considered a solid role player.
     
  2. New

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    Are you saying he should change team just because some trolls on clutch fan do not like him? Or are you saying he should change team because he is not he #1 option?
    He is a PG, and he needs to learn how to play with a near superstar SG. He was capable of doing just that. He is a young player with a lot to learn and a temporary problem shooting 3s...
     
  3. Aleron

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    He's young and inexperienced (he's basically a 3rd year rookie), unless he's an essential piece to a trade for a star, it would be ridiculous to give him up at this point.
     
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  4. Lucky Charm

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    Amare and Carmelo couldn't and they're vets.

    Lin was consistent last year because his position in the team was also consistent, even with the change of coaches and playing alongside stars in Carmelo, Tyson and Amare he was the one that orchestrated everything.
    This year he's in a new system with a different role, and he's still a young player, inconsistency is expected. Only way to get consistent is to get experience so it'll take some time.
     
  5. brick

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    Lin is a good mid range shooter and most NBA players are. Coaches just don't allow that so the opponents just pack the paint. It looks brilliant when our 3's are falling. Now it starts to backfire.
     
  6. SuperStar

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    I never paid attention to Melo and Amare so I don't know. Seems like Amare was always hurt. Lebron + Wade, Durant + Westbrook was what I was thinking about. Do you think Lin is a superstar comparable to Durant and Lebron? or even Westbrook or Wade?
     
  7. Lucky Charm

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    Yes SuperStar, I think Jeremy Lin is equally if not better than Lebron James. :)

    Really though, I didn't read iconoclastic's sig claiming Jeremy is a superstar. I just thought you were saying James who is or is close to being a superstar can play with anybody.

    But even taking into account iconoclastic's slightly exaggerated sig :)p) even Lebron and Wade struggled their first year together. And they were already superstars with plenty of experience. And no Amare and Carmelo never have clicked. So with that said, it'll obviously take time for much more inexperienced "superstars" in ~Jeremy and James :p
     
  8. Spiegel

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    Look the fact is now Lin is attacking the basket and is looking for his shot. Sooner or later they will start to fall again. As long as he moves and is proactive, you can live with his misses. The brain far turnovers are an issue, but besides the Asik pass that killed the momentum we had, he wasnt all that bad in that department.
     
  9. Luca

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    Well said, even after MDA's departure his stats were still good around 18points/8 assists. This year, his role is different he is sharing the PG duties with Harden. Idk what happened to his shooting form though, he was not as bad last year.
     
  10. SuperStar

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    Ban her!!!
     
  11. Luca

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    Thank you for your post as I didn't get to watch the game.
     
  12. Lucky Charm

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    But Superstar I've been so nice to you, now where else am I gonna prop up Lin?
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  13. L7N

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    'Roles' make stars. Lin is obviously a point guard that needs to be leader, but doesn't have the green light (rightly so as Harden is more consistent/ and has more experience; and he's actually proven).

    For Lin, some players don't thrive on being secondary players, especially after being the main man of a team that had Carmelo Anthony (a much bigger star than Harden). Most people don't; human nature. Their productivity decreases as their responsibilities decreases.

    In his interviews he's always mentioning, "the team NEEDS ME to do this NOW". The conditions are predetermined. "Now" is building Harden to be the next superstar, and make his teammates better (so they can be shopped with higher value). This is because the Rockets are still figuring out if Harden/ Lin combo can work. They are trying to build a superstar in Harden at the expense of 'Linsanity', and Lin knows that. The problem the Rockets have right now is they have Jamie Oliver and Anthony Bourdain in the same kitchen trying to cook a championship meal. Their roles are similar and redundant, both trying to play head chef.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3707/career;_ylt=ArB6k9nmxXzNhE3ZDDRZ8pvMPKB4

    A drop of 22% in productivity after a "role change", and productivity dropping consistently year by year as their roles settle. This is basically the problem.

    I have a feeling the Rockets are still trying to get a feel if they can win games with Harden being the main ball handler, just in case they can build a deal around Lin and shop him for a big man. (unfortunately it's failing, which makes it a more a difficult and complicated case where Harden, although an established superstar, might not be enough to win games let alone a championship).

    Lin has a TON of value now if he was to be shopped. He's an offensive force and a defensive force with massive upside. Personally, I would love to see him stay, but I wouldn't be surprised if he gets traded in a deal with someone else; for someone like Cousins, for example. Just speculation, no data/ connections to back this comment up.
     
  14. Bublanski

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    what a load of horse crap.

    im willing to be patient with lin and i think he has great upside but lets not spew this pretentious and highly incorrect drivel as a way to rationalize his piss poor performances.

    he just didnt play well and he is far too inconsistent and needs to improve in the offseason on his shooting, handle, decision making, and confidence.

    stop scapegoating Harden, racism, mchale, fans not showing up to the game, or whatever perceived hindrance you come up with whenever Jeremy Lin has a bad game and doesnt live up to Linsanity.
     
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  15. L7N

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    Who said anything about using Harden as a scapegoat, Racism, or Mchale?
     
  16. Bublanski

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    stop it.
     
  17. L7N

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    Ahh...the strawman fallacy at it's best. stop what? you replied, and i answered. what's the problem here.

    Where in my post did I allude to the fact that Harden was being used as a scapegoat, racism at play, or was coaches fault?
     
  18. amaru

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    He def. had a rough road trip
     
  19. Bublanski

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    read post #3533 then read post #3534.

    rinse and repeat until you get it.
     
  20. L7N

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    Not attacking Harden, Mchale, and DEFINITELY not playing the Racism card. Really? Racism? LOL, the dude is getting paid as a seasoned veteran. Hardly racism. Where the hell did you get that idea?

    Follow your own rule; literally.
     

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