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Jeremy Lin agrees to terms on offer sheet [Update: Lin officially signs]

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by dachuda86, Jul 5, 2012.

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Do you want Lin's contract matched

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. Royals Ego

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    JLin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  2. moonnumack

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    Anyone who post this crap obviously hasn't watched basketball in the last year or has an agenda. :confused:

    He's definitely not a superstar that the Linsanity hype made him seem like last year, but he's far from crap. At worst, he is an average PG, and more likely he'll settle into a 2nd-3rd tier PG. Remember, he's only 24.
     
  3. Kruze10

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    Excited to have Lin on board if everything goes through. My biggest concern is who do they expect to back up Lin. The fact he had a season ending injury just last year and the Rockets have the worst luck with injuries, who can they acquire to be a solid PG off the bench? Brooks? I always thought he was better off the bench. Just think he would b**** and whine a lot, which Mchale has a very short tolerance for.
     
  4. OremLK

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    If we get Lin then no way do we sign Brooks. That's probably why we haven't already signed him, waiting to see what happens with Lin offer.

    Call me crazy, but I think Machado will be a capable backup PG.
     
  5. Da_Spark

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    Last time i checked, we still have Tony Douglas and Shaun Livingston.
     
  6. DustinS

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    I remember seeing Lin at the open workouts last offseason and thinking "Damn, this kid has game, why the hell did the Warriors let him go?"
    Then I started to think about the fact that he played around Monta Ellis and how that could have adversely effected his game. Even Steph Curry looked better when playing away from Monta. I was very upset to see him leave instead of Flynn, because it was obvious Lin was the better player.
    With all that being said, Lin MUST get a grip on his TO's. That is a major issue for a point guard. He averaged 3.6 turnovers for the Knicks last year and thats way too much for his position
     
  7. BMoney

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    The ignore function is so, so nice right now. The douchebagery quotient on the BBS is off the charts even without DD and tamatosauce being bounced.
     
  8. Kruze10

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    I forgot we also have Toney Douglas, who I am pretty positive the Rockets will keep.
     
  9. Nero

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    I am actually kinda sorta also hoping they match.

    NOT because I don't want Lin here (which I do), and not because I think we can do better at this point for a PG..

    No, I kinda want to see them match just because I am curious to see the massive train wreck that the NYK are going to become if they match.

    It's like knowing there is going to be a massive 80-car pile-up on the freeway at a certain time and date, and we get to pull up a lawn chair and watch it happen.
     
  10. Joe Fan

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    [​IMG]

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/inarvjDJuHo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
  11. Deckard

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    Well, that's some trippy information. Thanks, man! :-D-
     
  12. CXbby

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    If he is just good, we are going to see Linsanity every night in every city. If he is beyond good, like Allstar caliber, it is going to be out of this world. It is going to be bigger than Yao. He is not only Asian, he is American, and he is normal sized as opposed to a giant. People can relate and people already love him. If he becomes an allstar level player, off the court he will be a global megastar on par with the Kobes and Lebrons.

    Not sure if everyone realizes how huge that is for a Rockets team that has been IRRELEVANT of late. Perception becomes reality. Stars will clamor to come and play with him. This move could turn out as crucial as Howard.

    Of course none of it would matter if it was all a flash in the pan. But he is a 23 year old second year player. After what he has already shown, can he improve and eventually become that allstar? Why the hell not.
     
  13. ThatBoyNick

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    My asian friend is going to be so happy to hear this!! No pun.
     
  14. OremLK

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    Steve Nash has averaged that much for almost the last decade, and he's been the best offensive point guard in basketball during that time.

    So I would rephrase that to say, "Lin needs to either cut down on his turnovers OR dish out more assists for each turnover".
     
  15. CometsWin

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    Interesting write up on the luxury tax. The Knicks if they matched Lin would be over the tax threshhold after Melo, Amare, Chandler, and Lin. Everything after that is taxed $1.50 per dollar up to $75 million threshhold and then $1.75 per dollar up to $80 million, and then $2.50 per dollar up to $85 million and so on. Assuming the salary luxury tax threshhold stays at $70 million of course. That could get expensive pretty damn fast.

    Lin’s Future With Knicks Cloudy After Felton Trade

    The Rockets signed Lin to a three-year, $25.1 million offer sheet Friday, reworking the terms of the key third year of the contract from earlier proposals they had made in the week. In the offer sheet Lin signed, after getting $5 million in the first year of the contract and $5.225 million in the second, he’ll be paid $14.898 million in the third. Houston could do that because for cap purposes, the value of his deal is averaged for the team that signs a restricted free agent to an offer sheet and offers him a raise larger than the normal average in the third year. That means Lin would count for a little more than $8 million each year on Houston’s cap, even though he’d be paid less than that in each of the first two seasons and more than that in the third year.

    But that won’t be the case for the Knicks. New York will have to absorb that entire $14.898 million in year three, which is the same year the Knicks are already on the tab for $24.3 million for Carmelo Anthony, $23.4 million for Amar’e Stoudemire and $14.5 million for Tyson Chandler. Those four salaries alone would put New York above the salary tax threshold of $70 million this season. By then, the more punitive penalties of the new collective bargaining agreement for taxpaying teams would kick in, with teams paying $1.50 in tax for every dollar they exceed the threshold up to $5 million. They would pay $1.75 in tax for every dollar they exceeded the threshold by $5 million to $10 million, $2.50 per dollar from $10 million to $15 million above the threshold and $3.25 per dollar they exceeded the threshold from $15 million to $20 million. And if a team is a “repeater,” having exceeded the threshold three straight seasons, those rates would increase by a dollar per $5 million above the threshold–to $2.50, $2.75, $3.50 and $4.25 per dollar over.

    Those amounts of tax could quickly become prohibitive, even for a team like New York, perhaps the biggest revenue producing team in the league. It would be a key test of the new CBA, which was designed to discourage the league’s highest-spending teams from hoarding good players.


    http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2012/07/15/lins-future-with-knicks-cloudy-after-felton-trade/
     
  16. CXbby

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    I would much rather improve our own team than screw with someone else's. MUCH rather.
     
  17. JMAD21

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    NY is pissing me off, just man up and either match it or don't but quit stalling like little b!tches!
     
  18. Kruze10

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    I think the pressure for Lin to replicate what he did in a full regular season schedule in one of the largest markets in the country would be too much for him. He also showed, at least in a few games, that he and Carmelo could not coexist. I think Houston is as good a situation for Lin to be in than anything else.
     
  19. Nero

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    Oh I agree completely.

    Point is, it's really a win/win in a way. Even if we don't get Lin, other good stuff will happen, but yes, I agree, will be much better to get him here than not.


    Just that morbid part of me wants to see that train wreck too.. lol
     
  20. Deckard

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    We'll see if New York actually lets Lin go, but if they do, and we get Howard and Asik, with a possible ROY in Motiejūnas or Lamb, if we manage to keep Lamb (not optimistic), what a change we'll see as a team, and as a franchise. Perception is so important in this league, and our image has suffered immensely with the loss of Yao. We just aren't taken seriously as a destination by the top free agents now, and we used to be a top destination. If the moves play out like many of us hope, that will change dramatically. We would be back on the map, and that's what we want. That, and another title.
     

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