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Jeremy Lin agrees to terms on offer sheet [Update: Lin officially signs]

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by dachuda86, Jul 5, 2012.

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Do you want Lin's contract matched

  1. Yes

    230 vote(s)
    31.3%
  2. No

    505 vote(s)
    68.7%
  1. TigerBait

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    2 people like this.
  2. FFz

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    Call to action!!!

    We gotta fake being Knicks fans and email the knicks management to not match.

    Please contact Jonathan Supranowitz, VP Public Relations for the New York Knicks and Gregg Schwartz, Manager Media Relations for the New York Knicks for all inquiries related to the New York Knicks. They can be reached at Jonathan.Supranowitz@msg.com and Gregg.Schwartz@msg.com.

    Keep spamming them to not match!
     
  3. mic

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    Repped. Sigmund is the only person I've ever felt the need to actually put on my ignore list.
     
  4. ShiniKashi

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    Me too. It's ridiculous. First person on my list.
     
  5. Tenchi

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    A nice twist would be that Sigmund is actually Jeremy Lin trolling for praise by putting himself down.
     
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  6. Mav-Hater

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    Sigmund Fraud is on my Ignore list as well.:grin:
     
  7. DAROckets

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    LOL me too and I'm a 99er
     
  8. Drunk_Goat

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    At least if the Rockets get Jeremy Lin someone outside of Houston will want to watch the Rockets.

    If they can get 2 or 3 nationally televised games out of this that'd be an upgrade. Probably just Houston at New York and Houston at LA or Thunder.
     
  9. Drunk_Goat

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    This is my first day back to the Clutch Fans message board since the Rockets lost Yao Ming i believe. I've been watching the whole time, but the Rockets were just too boring to talk about until now for me.
     
  10. rn_xw

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    99ers have spoken.
    Group ignore it is.
     
  11. rolyat93

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    If the Knicks make it to the Finals, which isn't fathomable in the foreseeable future.
     
  12. RocketFan

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    Same here! As well as a few other people. :rolleyes:
     
  13. Drunk_Goat

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    according to my people...
     
  14. liveguy

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    Spot on.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/pos...in-played-well

    People are saying all kinds of horrible things about Jeremy Lin now.

    One idea is that he's all about the money -- even though he may lead the league in endorsements declined.

    Another idea is that he is not very competitive -- even though he has been fending off skeptics with hard work and great play for half a decade.

    Another idea suggested here and there is that he's not worth a medium-sized NBA contract because he's not that good of a player, especially on defense.

    Here's where the whole project starts to reek of revisionist history. My two cents:

    Jeremy Lin IS a risk because he has only played at an elite level for 886 minutes, and everything about that has the chance to be a little fluky. Regression to the mean can hurt.
    Jeremy Lin IS a risk because after that short stint playing long minutes, he was injured. It seems a little nuts to project his health for the next 246 regular season games (three seasons, or the scope of his next contract) when he was shelved after his first 26 games of regular playing time. With Greg Oden as my witness, some bodies aren't meant for the NBA grind. There's no special reason to suspect Lin will have trouble, but you'd feel better if he had 200 NBA games under his belt.
    Jeremy Lin IS NOT a risk because during the 26 games of Linsanity he didn't play very well. The simple truth is that, even if you count in his bad games, he was tremendous.


    One of the simplest glances at a players' effect is to tally how the team plays when that player is on the floor. Plus/minus is an imprecise tool, but it's no good ignoring it entirely. It's like looking outside to guess what the weather will be like -- look at the satellite image too, but don't forget to look at the sky. It's the heart of common sense.

    And it cuts through a lot of hocus-pocus. Box score stats can make superstars out of players who put up big numbers without winning much. Case in point: Carmelo Anthony.

    The fact is the Knicks were very good with Lin on the floor. Far better than they were with Carmelo Anthony, Tyson Chandler or Amare Stoudemire. BasketballValue's rankings show that if you adjust for the other nine players on the floor -- who he's playing with and against -- Lin was literally the Knick who enjoyed the most success last year.

    Even in terms of raw plus/minus, simply tallying the team's performance when Lin played, he was one of a small handful of Knicks who were starkly in the positive last season. Anthony, Chandler and Stoudemire all played much more, and therefore had much more opportunity to both fail or succeed, but all were squarely negative.

    Setting aside team effects, and cleverly rounding up scoring, rebounding, assists and other box score contributions, Lin was the second-best Knick in terms of PER, just behind Anthony and among point guards squarely in the Steve Nash/Ty Lawson range. Lin's also better than Raymond Felton by virtually every measurable method.

    Nate Silver has done some rough-and-ready projections, for The New York Times, about the value of a good point guard. Anything close to last year's productivity and Lin is worth what the Rockets are offering -- simply for his play on the court.

    Of course, in a discussion about money, Lin's impact cannot be ignored on the business side, where he is second only to LeBron James in terms of potential to affect a team's bottom line. Teams don't profit directly from jersey sales, but in-arena sponsorships, local TV deals, ticket sales and overall team value could all reasonably be expected to jump on any team Lin plays for.

    There are reasons not to pay Lin a ton of money, mostly to do with the fact that it's hard to know what you're going to get. But less fuzzy is what the Knicks actually got, which was stellar play that resulted in the Knicks outplaying opponents.

    Let's not be confused about that.

    As long as that's so, the only really powerful reason I can see for the Knicks to let Lin walk is if they have other, better plans for those dollars and cap space down the road -- perhaps, as has long been whispered, Chris Paul.
     
  15. Nero

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    I wonder if 10,000 or so 'fans' can make up for the 80-million-dollar tax Dolan will have to pay?

    Sure, they would only have to pay about $800 each, extra, just cuz..

    Yeah, Lin's marketing pull will make that all back and then some. Yeah.
     
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    they probably will, they would be pretty dumb not too. I hope they dont, because we have **** at that position now, but I have a feeling they match.
     
  17. TigerBait

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    So will the Knicks go into full dispute mode tomorrow about whether or not the offer sheet was delivered? Ugh I'm tired of waiting. Seriously your not hurting us in a Dwight trade by delaying, if Orlando could get a better deal they would have gotten it by now. They should be mad at the CBA, not the Rockets. We only did what was within our rights. If they are mad at Lin for his "lack of loyalty"? Grow up. A widly rich orginization depriving a young man of some clarity in this situation because of a grudge is a bit childish.
     
  18. DaGreatest

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    if youre not a diehard fan, gtfo
     
  19. TigerBait

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    The photoshop thread needs a picture of Lin as Frankenstein bringing YOF's back from the dead.
     
  20. FFz

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    Listening to Knicks radio for the lulz and they got spike lee on. Dude blames Yao Ming for this LOL. Blame ur cheap ass owner for not offering Lin something first.
     

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