I guess I must have slept through last season when James Harden was apparently playing too much hero-ball. Or was that fiction?
That's not true. Only the Heats can do that. It needs athleticism and discipline. The discipline of OKC's D is not that good. When a team improve their jump shooting and low post games, things will get easier.
Below are the 4games Lin played without Harden: December 10 2012 vs. SPURS (L) 38pts+7asts+2Tos, Team 14TOs March 30 2013 vs. Clippers (W) 15pts+3asts+6Tos, Team 20TOs April 1 2013 vs. Magic (W) 19pts+11asts+3Tos, Team 9TOs February 13 2013 at Clippers (L) 14pts+7asts+4TOs, Team 21TOs The average TO of small sample size is 3.75<Harden 3.8 and Lin 3.6(2011-2012) Considering there are 2 games against CP3 and high team TOs, that number will get lower with larger sample size .
Wow....If you view this as proof and deserving of extrapolation to what he would do over a full seaon, I feel sorry for you. I get it you love the guy, but you are being completely unrealistic. Why should we care what he did in 4 games without Harden when that isn't what happened the majority of the season? Throughout the entire year last year adjusted to per 48 minutes Lin averaged 4.3 turnovers compared to 4.7 by Harden. Any Lin fan will tell you that Harden had the ball a ton more than Lin. A 0.4 difference when one guy has the ball that much more than the other should say it all.
since you claim harden has the ball that much more than lin, wouldn't that suggest lin should average assists in the range of 8-10 a game if he had more control on the ball? that's not bad at all for a pg
Not a claim, it's a fact harden had the ball more. As far as Lin getting those assists totals, sure I could see him getting 8 or more if he got 36+ minutes on a team where he controlled the ball the majority of the time. That's not gonna happen in Houston with the personnel we have.
Bleacher Report today has an article that Rockets is aggressively shopping Lin: http://bleacherreport.com/tb/daLFX?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=nba Any truth to that or just another BR junk?
Well now that its on bleacher report, its finally the first real credible source. so now i actually believe it. Bye bye lin
Just blindly looking at turnover numbers will not tell the whole story. You have to watch the games and see how those turnovers came about. A lot of Harden's turnovers were from trying to drive the ball through traffic looking to get foul calls but instead losing the ball. Meanwhile a lot of Lin's turnovers come from mishandled passes to our big men.
Harden has the ball not that much more actually, definitely not a ton more like you said lol. So Harden's is not better either. Stop comparing their TOs are equally bad, but it's okay.
If we can move Jlin I think we will move him. With Gibson available, it doesn't make sense to keep him. Problem is that nobody wants to eat Lin's salary. My sense is we are stuck with him. Unless you can package him with Asik.
Rockets trying to get rid of Jeremy Lin after one season Published July 8, 2013. | By Jason Whitney. Yes Jeremy, it’s time to go Jeremy Lin must feel like “Linsanity” was decades ago. After lighting the world on fire with the Knicks during the 2011-2012 season for 15-20 games, Jeremy Lin went from unknown youngster sleeping on a teammates couch, to national star. Lin would eventually play out the season and playoffs from the sideline as he tore his meniscus and could not play. Fast forward to the 2012 offseason in which Jeremy Lin became a restricted free agent. Coach Mike Woodson and the Knicks said they’d absolutely match any offer that was given to Lin during the offseason. Well as the story goes, the Knicks decided to trade for Raymond Felton instead, allowing Jeremy Lin to become a member of the Houston Rockets. Lin previously signed a three-year, 25 million dollar offer sheet from the Rockets that the Knicks decided was too much money for a relatively unproven player like Lin. Add to boot Lin’s struggles against superior defensive teams like the Celtics, Heat and Bulls it appeared the Knicks made a good decision to let Lin walk. The decision for the Knicks to go with Felton over Lin was widely unpopular at the time, but now even the craziest Lin fans would have to agree that it was the right decision. The Rockets team Lin went to was supposed to be “his” team and he would be the cornerstone for a young, rebuilding franchise in transition. Then days before the 2012-2013 regular season was about to kick off, the Rockets and Oklahoma City Thunder shook the NBA world by making a trade that would send James Harden to the Rockets in exchange for Kevin Martin and a slew of young players and draft picks. Lin had a very up and down season that saw him riding the pine late in games because of his defensive inefficiency. James Harden quickly became the star of the franchise and Lin was almost an afterthought. Now after a nice season that saw the Rockets make the playoffs, the franchise has decided to go a different direction and pair James Harden with super-diva, Dwight Howard. The Houston tandem is set for the next several years meaning the team isn’t sold on Jeremy Lin anymore or his contract. So the Rockets brass has been aggressively shopping Jeremy Lin around the NBA with very little interest. A source with direct knowledge of the situation confirms Rockets working hard to move Jeremy Lin … very limited interest for teams. — Bill Ingram (@TheRocketGuy) July 7, 2013 http://network.yardbarker.com/nba/a...t_rid_of_jeremy_lin_after_one_season/13995514
Since you only joined less than a year ago, I will give you the benefit of doubt that you don't know this: Bleacher Report is crap
Do you know why people say TOV% Isn't an accurate judge? Because it isn't. You write that it has some relevance and Lins isn't very good. And so your implying that makes him a terrible ball handler? Well you have to look at it in context. What other players have a worse TOV% than Lin? Rondo, Nash and Rubio. What do they have in common? They are all considered great ball handlers. When these guys have similar TOV% as Reggie Evans and Kendrick Perkins, You pretty much can tell TOV% is a meaningless stat.
