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Jefferson, KT, Najera

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Apr 1, 2003.

  1. GATER

    GATER Member

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    Let's get real, here. No one said Langhi is a "good" player. What was expressed is that Langhi was cut by the Rockets who never gave him any PT and he is in the rotation of their competitor for the 8th playoff spot.

    A player who is able to put the ball in the basket when he gets touches will always find employment in the NBA. It's true for Langhi as it is for Walt Williams who is in Dallas's rotation.

    Try not to have a such a narrow focus. No one said Langhi was the answer to anything. But he is part of a question as to why former Rockets can play for other teams with a different system.
     
  2. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    A narrow focus of you saying when Langhi gets touches he shoots well. That's what you wrote. What's your friggin point. He gets no minutes with the Suns either. If you don't want anyone to say anthing, why even bring him into the argument.

    And Langhi is nowhere near the player Walt Willliams is, and Walt Williams isn't even that good. You should not have such a narrow focus on the point I'm getting at. Once you so-called fans start complaining about everything, you even write ridiculous posts about Langhi not getting enough playing time. It's alright to complain, but some things are simply absurd and should be refuted.
     
  3. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Najera was traded for Langhi that is how he is relevant to this discussion.

    It also clarifies my point.

    We could have Najera, Jefferson, KT and 2 other first round picks from last year if we would have made the right choice.

    I think the Rockets success at trading is falling by the wayside.

    DD
     
  4. ima_drummer2k

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    That pretty much says it all.

    Griffin- Great prospect called "a steal" by most NBA prognosticators (sp?), some even said he should have gone #1. Now he's just another soft 3 point shooting (not making), shot blocker ala Rober Horry.

    Posey- supposed to be a great trade that brought us an athletic slasher/defender with a 14 ppg average to boot. Instead he just stands around and watches Moochie and Steve dribble occasionally missing a 3 pointer.

    Yao- Enough said about him. Has anyone noticed how many great picks he sets for the guards that they NEVER use?

    IT'S THE SYSTEM, DAMMIT!
     
  5. matrixReloaded

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    well, according to sports radio 610, najera was never ours, he was the mav's choice ... even though i'm not sure how that works, but i think we got an extra 2nd rounder or the choice of moving up in last year's draft ... and we eventually drafted Tito with that pick.

    and with jefferson, he was a product of the system, though he is a pretty good player with a great point guard setting him up for those WIDE open jumpers.

    with KT, well, he's a hard working player, hustles but he really didn't fit our team, he's a tweener ... didn't have the 3 pointer to be a small forward, and wasn't big enough to guard the power forwards.
     
  6. GATER

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    If you feel Langhi or Williams' playing time on playoff bound teams is insignificant, that's your prerogative. There are too many recent instances of formar Rockets making contributions to other teams and too many examples of players coming to the Rockets and performing below expectations for me to pass it off as narrowly focused.

    It's the system...or is that too narrowly focused for you to comprehend? :p
     
  7. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I'm not arguing about the system, even though I would like to point out that Walt Williams had better statistics with the Rockets. So my point is yes the system needs to be fixed, but to assert that players leave this team and do better somewhere else is fallacy, case in point Walt Williams. Another example is Kenny Thomas. So yes the system is flawed, but it isn't holding back players. Is Cassell or Horry any better with their other teams, no. I haven't seen a player flourish after leaving the Rockets since Craig Ehlo.
     
  8. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Ummmm,

    Cassel is much better with the Bucks then he was with the Rockets.

    DD
     
  9. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    let me see, cassell won two rings in his first two years with the Rockets, he was an integral part of both of those teams. Are you saying the Rockets didn't get enough out of Cassell?
     
  10. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    I would argue that point since Cassell was very productive for us given his minutes. He just plays more minutes in Milwaukee because he was the starter. Also Cassells job here was to get the ball to Dream and do your thing if Dream is triple teamed.
     
  11. DaDakota

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    No I would say his STATS are significantly better, or are you saying that STATS don't tell the whole truth?

    :)

    DD
     
  12. RunninRaven

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    I'd just like to point out that Dan Langhi, despite "playing well" is shooting 29% from 3 point land and 39% overall this season. I don't think I am too broken up about him not being let go by Houston.
     
  13. Desert Scar

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    Langhi would be of no use to us. I watch Phx, and he just plain sucks. It is only because all the Suns also completely suck after Marbury, Marion, Amare and Penny that Langhi gets any PT at all. Posey, Morris, Hawkins, Griffin, probably even Boki if he got any PT, are all better than him offensively and all but Boki are light years better defensively. This isn't just my opinion based on watching him, Langhi's shoots 39% from the floor, 29% from 3, and 56% from the line. The only Rocket with that kind of putrid line is Boki--and based on 70 minutes over a whole season (versus like 1000 for Langhi) I don't think makes a fair comparison. In sum, Langhi may be good enough for some PT with the Suns, but he is not good enough for a roster spot on the Rockets, period.

    Najera on the other hand I think would be an asset. He does play really good defense, harrasses and irritates those he plays against, hustles like crazy, takes whatever points falls in his lap without complaining, and fouls hard without often being flagrants. We need some players like that.

    The jury is still out IMO on Posey for KT--Posey has been a key figure in what wins we have gotten recently and certainly KT has helped Phily.
     
  14. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    His stats aren't significantly better. If you take his per 48 minutes scoring stats from his last year when he was a starter. His per 48 minute avg his last year in Houston was 25 points now its 27 points.
     
  15. DaDakota

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    Guys it is not LANGHI that we are talking about here.

    We traded NAJERA for Langhi.....we traded EG for Jefferson, we traded KT for Posey....

    Get it, we got the worse end in all those trades.

    DD
     
  16. TheFreak

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    This has already been said, but the Rockets drafted Najera FOR Dallas.
     
  17. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I think Gater is talking about Langhi.
     
  18. DaDakota

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    Freak,

    yes, that is what the Rockets say AFTER the fact isn't it.

    DD
     
  19. TheFreak

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    It's what they said on draft day.
     
  20. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Freak, I agree with you, but I would still question, what was the point of making that deal?
     

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