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Jeff Van Gundy Dismissed

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by omair, May 18, 2007.

  1. GRENDEL

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    I can't wait to see how many new poster take up the charge to "fire [insert coach name}" next time...
     
  2. GRENDEL

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    Same here, I support whos in the position and whos on our team.
     
  3. smeiou78

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    Fans are fickle like that. They don't look at the long term, only the NOW term.
     
  4. zong

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    JVG should quit the job before being dismissed, he was really hoping that he can get another chance in Houston, but he did not get it. Anyway, everyone has to move on sometimes.
     
  5. DonkeyMagic

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    i think adelman is a good coach and will still show support for him even though i dont agree with the situation. I think a lot of some people could learn a lot from us :)

    that being said, who they get for coach doesnt mean squat. If yao still plays soft, tmac cowers in crunch time and if the 3rd best player is still battier then the rockets arent doing any better.
     
  6. heypartner

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    not to disagree with your main point or anything...but CD and JVG completely reworked our roster while JVG was here.
     
  7. Cohen

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    Proverbial grass-is-greener post... er... warning.

    Well said Deckard. I was actually hoping for some flexibility by JVG about bringing in an assistant with a new, well-proven offense (as if it were that simple).

    It may take a full year or two for the defense to lose is luster (depending on the new coach's effect), but once we do it will be sorely missed.
     
  8. Zhu_BaJie

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    bad news or good news?
     
  9. Lady_Di

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    I remember reading a Houston Chronicle - Les was saying they wouldn't fire JVG.

    Looks like they did.

    He's a tough act to follow for the next coach but there needs to be a change. 4 years of no playoff success(2nd round and beyond) is not going to sit well with the fans, even with JVG lovers.
     
  10. DaneB

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    My Only Worry

    Now that Van Gundy is officially out the door, and we are putting together an entirely new offensive set, we're going to be lacking defense. I really hope that with a new coach, we don't lose our defensive mentality. Offense never wins a championship alone. We really need somebody who can be versatile and make his players work on both ends, but also coax them to be more creative in the half court, as well as get easy fastbreak baskets. Is that Adelman? I don't know. Who else was really good on defense in Sacto, other than Doug Christie?
     
  11. colorado3855

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    Very much a sidestep.....a change for change sakes....I think we all need to beg Hakeem to instill the "it" to Yao and also Tmac.
     
  12. BroadwayBelm

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    Jesus. Lose defense?

    Battier can play defense no matter who is his coach.

    Hayes can play defense no matter who is his coach.

    Deke can play Defense no matter who is his coach.


    No one else on our team can play defense anyways. And they all got to learn defense for 3 years, so they got enough defensive experience in the back of their head.
     
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    I remember that too. Les is full of lies.
     
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    I don't think Hayes and Deke are going to be back next season. So yes, lose defense.
     
  16. pgabriel

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    I like JVG as a coach also but it was pretty much a given that if the rockets didn't win a series he would be gone. it may be a mistake, maybe not, time will tell. he's obviously a good coach but he has faults. this team is no guarantee to win, which I think its funny because alot of you guys marked yao and mac as future champs when mac came and now you're saying this team just isn't good. but that's another thread.
     
  17. smokefly

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    Good luck JVG. You did a fine job. You could have done better.
     
  18. Hayesfan

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    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/si...ayoffs/2007/05/van-gundy-deserved-better.html

    Forget for a moment whether Jeff Van Gundy is the right man for the Rockets' job. His firing Friday is proof that the NBA is one crazy league.

    All Van Gundy did this season was lead the Rockets to a 52-30 record despite center Yao Ming missing two months with a broken leg. It marked the second time in three years he racked up a 50-win campaign, missing out only in 2005-06 when Yao and Tracy McGrady went down with injury for long stretches. In his four years in Houston, Van Gundy was 182-146.

    True, Houston flamed out in the first round of the playoffs in three of Van Gundy's four seasons. But this year was the only one in which Houston was favored. And losing to the Jazz in seven games, even with Game 7 at home, isn't exactly an embarrassment.

    The bottom line is a coach's job is to win games, and Van Gundy did that in Houston. He even finished fourth in Coach of the Year voting this season.

    OK, so maybe Van Gundy's Rockets were about as much fun to watch as a PBS documentary on horseflies. They were a plow horse in the half-court, and perhaps a tad too defensive-oriented. But with a 7-5 center in Yao, doesn't it make sense to build a team in that fashion?

    Rockets owner Les Alexander apparently doesn't think so. Like many fans, he reportedly wants Houston to play more up-tempo. Never mind that Yao isn't exactly suited to play a Phoenix-style attack, Alexander wants to see more fireworks.

    Fair enough. He is the owner. It's his prerogative.

    He might even turn out to be correct.

    Rick Adelman appears to be Alexander's choice as the next coach. The former Kings and Blazers coach had high-scoring teams in Sacramento that ran their offense through a center with deft passing skills, such as Yao. Alexander reportedly met recently with Adelman, who has been living in Portland since getting axed by the Kings after last season, to discuss the position.

    Larry Brown, a finalist for the Houston opening four years ago, also could be a candidate if Adelman doesn't get the job.

    But whether or not this turns out to be the right call, Alexander doesn't look too good for the way it was handled. Why would he meet with Adelman before he'd given Van Gundy the heave-ho? The Rockets are saying Van Gundy was offered another position in the organization, and that they were waiting to hear from him. Adelman clearly must have believed this to be the case, or he wouldn't have agreed to talk about the job. But either way, it sure looks like Houston was looking for a coach behind Van Gundy's back.

    Van Gundy, meanwhile, apparently wanted to return. There were reports right after his team's playoff ouster that the veteran coach -- who had a year (nonguaranteed) left on his contract -- might decide not to come back. But Van Gundy said he simply needed more time to make a decision. When he decided that he wanted to stay, the Rockets told him, "Sorry."

    The other strange aspect to the Van Gundy saga is the role of new GM Daryl Morey, the stat guru brought in by Alexander last season to take over personnel matters. Morey, who replaces the retired Carroll Dawson, reportedly was willing to keep Van Gundy. But now it appears Alexander has stepped in and big-footed the first decision his young GM would get to make.

    Add it all up and it looks like the Rockets really bungled this operation. Instead of making a clean break, they put Van Gundy in an awkward position. Even if you don't prefer his coaching style, he deserved better. But, hey, that's life in the crazy NBA -- and nobody knows that better than Van Gundy, who will be back on the sideline someday in the not-too-distant future.
     
  19. BroadwayBelm

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    no matter who the rockets coach is next season, they're defense will still be better then the suns. Not necessaarily better then the jazz, spurs, or mavs, but it will be more then sufficient.

    The jazz's defense wasn't even that great this season in the regular season statistically, yet they clamped down in the playoffs....or our offense fell apart.
     
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