Oh no DaD! No greasing your way out of this and no backtracking from what you've been posting for days now. It was You who labeled JVG an INFERIOR coach. It was You who personally blamed JVG for Novack & Spanoulis' inability to adjust to the NBA. It was You who blamed JVG for the Bonzi Wells debacle. It was You who is blaming JVG for the Utah loss because it was his fault and not the players that they lost that 7th game. It is You who is what? Giddy? at this turn of events because You just know that Adelman will not only get them into the playoffs next year but will get them OUT of the first round. Sorry big guy but I'm afraid that I'm going to have to hold You to all of the things you've been saying on this matter. After all, the wantom use of hyperbole can carry a heavy price... Yours in Christ, HillBoy
i believe rafer can do much better in an offense with some movement to it. it's hard to get assists when everyone is glued to 1 spot. i'd like to see what vspan can do once he becomes familiar with the team.
Dude, honestly, how was JVG a winner with the Rockets?? You're obsessed with JVG the media person, and not even evaluating JVG the playoff coach. Once you stop your man crush on his personality, you'll realize Gundy had 3 differnet rosters as a Rockets coach alone. <b> 3 </b>. He promptly failed each time and exited the playoffs with a thud...........
Yeah, that original post got pulled in about 30 seconds by Clutch due to the Rocket PR who monitor the site. But the morning I spent with him was really special, Van Gundy was very honest and answered every question straight on... I was shocked at his honesty. I didn't post all he said either, but he was right on target about this team and this season.
yeah, i blame him for not getting over the hump with the white boy power squad. he didn't get enough out of those guys. you guys act like he was coaching the 86 Celtics.
Truth of the matter is, JVG was out-coached by Slaon that entire series. Utah did what they wanted offensively, bullied us around defensively, and JVG didn't do much to correct either problem. Combined with the fact that he didn't use his bench at all during the season or the playoffs, he didn't get the most of out this team. He got the most of out 7-8 guys, but not the whole team. I hated him when he came here 4 years ago, and I have softened that stance. Great guy, good coach, but not the future of the Rockets. To lose 2 Game 7's in 3 years and not get out of the 1st round in 4 years will generally result in one losing their job. I'd rather have Mario Elie than Adleman, but we should give him a chance.
Hey everyone. First post here, but I've been following the Rockets damn near religiously for the past few seasons--I'll admit it right now to get it out of the way but Yao had something to do it (I'm ethnic Chinese), but so did Van Gundy. When I first started following basketball hardcore 7 or 8 years ago, the Knicks were my team as I live in Jersey (don't even mention the Nets to me Vince Carter can choke and die for all i care). Lucky me, that was the first year that the Knicks started spinning slowly into mediocrity; Van Gundy took the team to the deciding game of the first round and we lost due to an Allan Houston chokejob and Camby's series long family issues. The next year, Van Gundy took a terrible team, stricken by injuries to Camby and Sprewell and undersized and outgunned when healthy anyway, to a 0.500 record over the first 20 games of the season. He quit, Don Chaney was his replacement, and the club went 20-42 the rest of the way. I watched every game and the difference was night and ******* day. Here's the bottomline: Van Gundy is a helluva coach. His Knick teams played with passion and desire, surviving and winning often on hustle alone. I saw a lot of the same with the Rockets these past few seasons. How many times did you see Chuck Hayes or Battier or even Rafer freaking Alston take a charge this year? Go back to Rudy's days and tell me how many charges Francis and Cat took. As a sidenote: a lot of you guys are calling for Francis to come back here for the MLE. I'm still a Knick fan and we've been stuck with him all season; I've probably never seen a dumber, more inconsistent ballplayer in my life. He overdribbles, never makes the right play, and forces shots ALL THE TIME. He only played like 40 games and I'm already sick of the little dribble twice, step into a contested 15 footer. He's not the answer. Now, obviously Van Gundy doesn't deserve to be fired for losing in Game 7 by 4 points to a clearly more balanced and arguably superior team. However, do I think he's the right coach for the Rockets? I'm not sure. He did spearhead the Yao Renaissance, ushering in his current dominance. The Big Fella is all anyone could have expected; sure he turns the ball over and he gets tired but he got 25 freaking points a game! I do agree that the offense was nearly unbearable to watch, but it's also what you do when you have two superstars and a bunch of unathletic roleplayers. I also disagree that Van Gundy could have done any better with the roster he was given. Look, we saw these players in preseason and we saw these players in garbage time. Kirk Snyder, maybe he could have played more but the hand injury early on hurt him. Bonzi was a ****** and completely useless--playoffs are about matchups, and he dominated last year vs. the Spurs because there was simply nobody that could guard him at the 2 or 3. Too bad he's too slow to play either now. Novak is a joke who couldn't even do what he supposedly does best--shoot--when he got any minutes anyway. V-span, I was completely unimpressed when I saw him. Yeah he can penetrate, but his handle is clearly shaky, his jumpshot form is terrible, and he has problems sensing the game. Don't buy into the hype just because he played well ONE game v. USA; Tony Delk scored 50 once you know. Our offense will probably improve next season if Adelman signs on, no doubt. But I'm just as positive that our defense will regress and without significant roster changes, the win record won't be much better. The 9th, 10th, 11th men on this team are not the answers. Van Gundy got these players to play. Yeah they're Van Gundy's guys, but he got the absolute best out of them. Every single player on the roster will attest to the fact that Van Gundy was one of the best coaches they ever had. In contrast, Adelman had constant feuds with his players and was inordinately snappish with the media. Ask Drexler. Be careful what you wish for. I look forward to seeing how it pans out regardless. Might as well watch a team that at least has a chance--makes me wish Isiah Thomas would trade Dave Lee for Snyder. Knicks are going nowhere anyway.
For this team - correct. No, it was me who wanted JVG to at least try V-Span because Rafer sucked. Novak - I would like to see, but not over Tmac. No, I said that they were both at fault and that JVG should have found a way to utilize a true NBA talent like every other coach that got something out of the Bonz. Yes, it was JVG and his unimaginative offense and lack of adjustments. This is one point I agree with you on.... I like Adelman, but not really sure about him, I am more happy that JVG is gone moreso than an Adelman fan. Yep, I realize that......I have been wrong before... How very christian of you. DD
See...we get a coach..teach them defense for 4 years..now they have that in their heads...just bring in a offensive coach and we will have both sides finally... Seriously....lets close all JVG threads and lets start the new era of Rockets basketball. I just want to forget.
Max, honest question. Do you feel that after having 2-0 leads against Dallas and Utah, we still lost to them because of talent?? Do you not think we could have closed either of them out with a different coach? Ya ok, we might not have won the championship either years, but its not the talent that held us back in the first round either year.
The next coach should just say..."okay guys do what JVG taught on that side of the ball" Now let me teach you something new on Offense lol
