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Jazz: Boozer says opting out would be 'business decision'

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by engr chris, Jun 29, 2008.

  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Deckard,

    It is just business, what is the big deal? The Cavs were the one's who made the mistake of letting an ASSET go, based upon his word.

    That is naive to say the least....sure he should be blasted in Cleveland, but how can you blame a guy for taking roughtly $50 million more in cash in a career that is only one knee injury away from going completely away?

    I believe as a player they should look completely out for themselves......their responsibility is to their own families and nothing else, not an owner, not a city, no-one but themselves.

    I think Boozer screwed Cleveland, no doubt, but with so much money on the table, I think he did the right thing.

    DD
     
  2. pmac

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    You're right everyone would take the money...whether they admit to it or not.

    Basically he guaranteed himself a big contract. If i'm not mistaken, the cavs were doing HIM a favor by not picking up the option on the last year of his contract. He used very shady means to get an even bigger contract than what he was offered. They should have left him on that puny contract and made a decision the next summer.

    In this case completely devoured the hand that fed him.
     
  3. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I think Boozer and the Cavs severly underestimated his value. besides that, the cavs could have matched the offer. it was $28MM difference over the prime of his career. you cannot pass on that type of money.
     
  4. MemphisX

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    People forget he was hurt the next 2 seasons. He would have lost about $30 million.

    Go Boozer....to the East.
     
  5. Rocket River

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    Honestly
    when various rules are put in place to keep you from maximizing your profits
    while allow those who you work for to maximize profits on you
    well . . . ish happens

    Teams have invoked LOYALTY to get better deals with players
    then turn around and trade them in a hot second [See Cuttino Mobley]
    When a player does it .. .everyone wants to act all offended and hurt

    Boozer didn't do anything too different than every team has done at some point to a player
    Promised the player this . ..

    i.e. If Clippers promised Livingston long term security, etc
    . . .he gets hurt
    boom they opting out

    As DaDa said. . the facts changed once he free
    just like in the hypothetical Livingston senario . .the Facts changed
    [Boozer's case 60 mil came available .. in Livingston he got hurt]

    Rocket River
    . . and people act like he bolted for an extra mil or two
    It was d*mn near 40 million . .that was almost 3 times what Cleveland was offering
    I have a hard time seeing anyone here staying at there job . .. if someone offering 2.5 times more for the same job
     
  6. Precision340

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    the NBA is a business.. in this day and age there's little loyalty in sports... i don't mind players going for the $$$ at all.. i would do the same
     
  7. pmac

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    leave it to Rocket River to get all philosophical on a mofo, as if owners are all part of illuminati or somethin'.

    I understand that he did what was right for him and his family, i don't mind that. But that way he went about it was shady. As a man i can't do those type of under handed things, even if it means millions of dollars. I probably would have ran for the money but i wouldn't have tarnished my word in the first place.

    I'd also like to take this opportunity to use one of my favorite words. He ratchet.
     
  8. Rocket River

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    I'm just saying. . Owners do it. . .why not employees?

    Rocket River
    . . becoming a devout Capitalist!
     
  9. JuanValdez

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    People keep talking about it as if it was an issue of loyalty to a team/city. That's not it at all. It's about loyalty to one's own word. Cleveland did him a favor in exchange for a promise to stay. He broke his promise. So what if the difference is $50 million dollars? He'd have had no opportunity to get that money if Cleveland didn't do him a favor and make him unrestricted. It's ill-gotten; he has no honor. Whether it was right by him or his family, if Cleveland was dumb to let him out (which they were), or if everyone in the world would have done the exact same thing, it doesn't change the fact that he gave his word and broke it.
     
  10. The_Yoyo

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    i thought the cavs agreed to let him out so they could sign a one-year deal worth more than what he was getting paid and then since they would own his bird rights then sign him to a max or near max offer the following season. he would have gotten paid more in the long run with cleveland. so he agreed to doing that but then as soon as he was let out he bolted for the jazz who gave him more immediate money.

    it was pretty shady of him to do because from what i heard it was boozer who brought up the idea of being let go early otherwise the cavs would have just kept him that last year on the cheap. they were trying to help him out by giving him some more money right now and he screwed them for it.

    i dont blame him for taking the immediate cash right away i just hope he never ever wins a ring and is injury plagued for the rest of his career though
     
  11. Jimes

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    I'm with you sir.

    Another interesting thing is that he could be winning championships with LBJ right about now. Think of the Cavs in the Finals last year w/ Boozer or the way they took the Celtics to a close Game 7 this year. Lot of what ifs of course (maybe the Cavs don't make some of these crazy moves they've made such as the Damon Jones deal ), but things could have been far better for him from a winning perspective had he stayed. That brings up another debate of if the extra money would be worth winning it all.
     
  12. Smokey

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    Boozer lied to a team owned by a blind man.

    It doesn't get any worse.
     
  13. ROXTXIA

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    The Cavs were wrong to trust him.

    Yep, let him tell the wonderful human beings who are called Jazzhole fans, "Hey, take it easy; TRUST ME. Just because I found it easy to sneak up on a blind man and ratf**k him, doesn't mean I would do the same to you."
     
  14. Deckard

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    Thank you, JV! Now I won't have to labor over a post, in response to DD, that wouldn't be half as good.

    Kudos, sir. :cool:
     
  15. DaDakota

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    No one is saying he has honor...who said that?

    But RR correctly pointed out that owners use up the players then cut them at the slightest whim.

    I don't blame Boozer, he did what he thought was right....

    DD
     
  16. pgabriel

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    he's not a samurai

    I understand, its a decision he has to live with, i doubt it bothers him
     
  17. Surfguy

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    Hmm...Boozer is on the Olympic bball team.

    Sorry, USA, I hope you'll lose.

    I refuse to root for any team with Boozer on it. It's a matter of principle. :D
     
  18. pmac

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    Seppuku?
    :confused: :confused: :confused:
     
  19. RoxSqaud

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    LMAO.......... :D
     
  20. sook

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    No DD, you're wrong. If Boozer was a good human being he would have looked out for the cleveland fans rooting for them and not bit them in the back. Whos surprised to where he ended up? He ended up in hell, where he needs to spend eternity and repent muhahahhaha :mad:
     

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