so, pasox2, you want to watch Rice in the Village, tomorrow. 6pm also, Washington landed the Head Coach with who is the most proven Xs and Os assistant in the league, Eddie Jordan. Why hasn't anyone posted about it. Take some liberties, read up on Jordan, and start a thread about it. not in the main forum, though...that's too much disrespect for the honeymoon period allowed a new coach. Jordan brought Pete Carrill to the Kings, and the Kings promptly replaced his interim head coaching ass with Adelman, then New Jersey hired him and Byron Scott is getting all the credit. Jordan is more proven than Carlisle, imo.
Well, there was a thread, but noone seemed to give a damn. http://bbs.clutchcity.net/php3/showthread.php?s=&threadid=59845
Motorcycle riding is clearly an above-average risk activity with severe consequences. Jay Wil has the right to do whatever he want in his spare time (legally speaking). I just hope he gets better so he can continue to play. Does the NBA make contracts with activity restrictive language? I'm sure it doesn't with the strong athlete Union. Did you hear about the guy who was fired at Coca Cola for drinking a Pepsi? I'm not sure about the specifics of the case but it's interesting to ponder how far some contracts can go to restrict free speech (will).
just like what i always say, bikes is a death wish on two wheels.. (no offense to all yall bike owners.. just my opinion). you'll be lucky to be alive when you have a major accident when your riding a bike. you'll be lucky you'll end up 50/50.. that's why i dont ride bikes. too much risk is at stake.
Am I missing something? Does anything in this post have anything to do with Jay? There is a thread about Eddie Jordan on the first page, you know.
I read somewhere that standard NBA player contracts forbid skiing, riding on motorcycles, and skydiving. Players can have those written out (for ex. Karl Malone for one loves motorcycles), but it is not sure if Williams did. If the Bulls have an out for breach of contract, they would probably not say so at this time. Can you believe Williams wasn't even wearing a helmet? He may be able to return in a year, but how effective will he be?
I'd also like to know why you're a dumbass kidrock8. As for Jay Williams, it not so much not wanting these guys to be human, it's the fact that when you're an athlete you have to be careful. Motorcycle accidents are more dangerous then car accidents just because you're outside when you're riding a motorcycle. It's rare to crash a motorcycle and walk away without some type of bad injury.
It'll prob take him 2-3 years to come close to fully recovering, basketball-wise. Health-wise, who knows.
It's shocking to see anyone's health and career being threatened.I hope and pray that he will recover completely from his injuries. I would be sad if he would not be able to get back on the court.
If he wasn't speeding or driving recklessly, and his contract didn't prohibit motorcycle riding, I think it is pretty silly to call his decision to ride a motorcycle stupid. Motorcycles are certainly more dangerous than cars if you get in a major wreck, but it doesn't really make it any more likely that a player will be in a bad wreck if they are riding a bike (in fact, I would think it would be easier to avoid since they are smaller and more maneuverable in some ways). I know a lot of people who have ridden motorcycles for a long time, and none of them have been in a terrible wreck that caused massive injuries that would sideline a professional athlete. I think this is getting blown way out of proportion. Now, of course, if it turns out that he was driving 100 mph with no helmet, that's a different animal entirely.
I hope he's OKay... He hit a telephone pole. He only had it for a week. Hopefully it is not a career ending injury... Thank God we did not draft him
You know, I can't say that I don't agree with you who believe he probably shouldn't have been riding the motorcycle in the first place, but how about we skip that obvious fact and just concentrate on the fact a horrible thing happened to a gifted young man and wish him well.
A gifted young man is trying to ruin his own career by riding a bike. It's his career, of course he has the right to ruin it! It is definitely stupid in my book. Not because he ride a motocycle, but because he could cause himself tens of milliums of dollars. Blow your money on a record label like ISO-h with a 17 old chick is one thing, but this...
While I hate to say that, JWill must bear most of the responsibility of his ordeal. He drove without helmet and motorcycle license. He also got three speeding tickets recently according to Chicago Tribune. http://chicagosports.chicagotribune...bulls,1,2342304.story?coll=cs-bulls-headlines Crash puts Williams' career in jeopardy More surgery, long recovery ahead for guard E-mail this story Printer-friendly format Search archives Columnist Sam Smith On Pro Basketball Williams' future shifts 180 degrees Jun 21, 2003 Send Jay Williams your best wishes The Bulls guard is in the hospital after a motorcycle accident Thursday night. Jdubs - You are my favorite player. I watched you at Duke and am a huge Bulls fan. My prayers are with you and your family! Submitted by: Linda Giles 6:52 PM CDT, Jun 21, 2003 sending you prayers and love...... Submitted by: Spirits of Cameron Stadium 4:11 PM CDT, Jun 21, 2003 Read more comments or post your own More Headlines Athletes need to weigh risk vs. thrill Rick Morrissey: On-court woes pale in comparison Krause slated to analyze draft View from a Bulls Fan Sam Smith: Bucks' fans fear MJ bid By K.C. Johnson and Todd Lighty Tribune staff reporters June 20, 2003, 11:18 PM CDT Surrounded by family, friends and team management in his hospital room, Bulls guard Jay Williams faced an uncertain athletic future and a long medical battle Friday, a day after sustaining serious injuries in a motorcycle accident. Officials with the Bulls and Illinois Masonic Medical Center declined to comment publicly on Williams' condition. But a source said Williams, 21, was listed in intensive care with injuries to his pelvic area, left leg and knee. The source, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said Williams had undergone one operation to repair nerve damage in his pelvic area and could require several more surgeries, including a reconstructive procedure on his left knee. Though several team sources acknowledged that the injuries threatened Williams' career, the source painted a more optimistic picture, saying the guard would miss next season but could eventually return. Visitors said Williams was conscious, responding to doctors and aware of the situation facing him. A Bulls source said specialists and team doctors could formulate a plan for further surgery as early as Saturday. The accident followed a turbulent rookie season for Williams, the national college player of the year from Duke, whom the Bulls chose with the second pick of the 2002 NBA draft. With his lightning-quick first step, clever ball-handling ability and marketable smile, Williams was promoted as the can't-miss kid who would team with Tyson Chandler and Eddy Curry to lead the Bulls back to respectability. But Williams struggled on the court and acknowledged having trouble adapting to the professional game. New details were emerging Friday about the accident, in which Williams lost control of his motorcycle and hit a curb, then a pole near the intersection of Honore and Fletcher Streets on the North Side. According to Illinois secretary of state records, Williams had owned his 2002 Yamaha for only a week, having purchased it June 12 from the Chicago Cycle Center on North Western Avenue. Employees there declined to comment. Records indicated that the cycle was registered in Illinois and had temporary license plates valid through September. Williams was not wearing a helmet, police said. He was not cited for traffic violations. But Williams was not licensed to drive a motorcycle in Illinois or his native state of New Jersey, officials in both states said. Chicago police spokesman Dave Bayless said operating a motorcycle without proper licensing could lead to a citation. A friend said Williams had been riding to meet Kevin Bradbury, a college friend who works in public relations at Golin/Harris International. Bradbury was waiting with his own motorcycle near the accident site but didn't see the crash, the friend said. Bradbury accompanied Williams in the ambulance to the hospital. The standard NBA player contract bars motorcycle riding without team consent. A team official refused to comment on whether the Bulls knew about Williams' use of a motorcycle. A termination for breach of contract would be extremely unlikely, according to an NBA Players Association source. The team official refused to speculate on the possibility. Several of Williams' teammates said he had spoken openly of his fondness for motorcycles. One player said Williams had taken him to see a different model during the season. Those same teammates, though, reflected the mood of the organization Friday, talking in somber and subdued tones. "I still can't believe it," said Rick Brunson, one of Williams' closest friends from last season. "My thoughts and prayers are with him." Said Jamal Crawford, who competed against Williams for playing time at guard: "I couldn't sleep last night. I went to bed at 4 a.m. and got up like two hours later. I'm going to wait for the right time to see him, but I have to see my boy." Bulls Chairman Jerry Reinsdorf, general manager John Paxson and coach Bill Cartwright were among the visitors to Williams' hospital room. His parents, David and Althea Williams, also held vigil, and Williams' Bay Area-based agent, Bill Duffy, flew in late Friday. Paxson issued a statement as the only official word from the organization. "The atmosphere at the Berto Center is one of shock and sadness," Paxson's statement read. "The last thing on our minds right now is basketball, and the foremost thought on our minds is that of Jay's health. We respect the privacy of the family and as time goes on we will be waiting for the family and doctors to report to us on Jay's status. The thoughts and the prayers of the Bulls family are with them." Team sources indicated the family might take the weekend to gather itself before making a statement. Those with knowledge of Williams' condition acknowledged he would face daunting rehabilitation but pointed out that another former Duke star, Bobby Hurley, returned to play after a horrendous car accident. "We know Jay's fighting spirit," Bulls guard Fred Hoiberg said. "He had a turbulent rookie season, but he fought through that and had a productive last quarter-season. You just hope it's not a career-threatening injury. Right now, as a teammate and friend, you just hope he's OK." Williams has been ticketed at least three times since January 2001 for speeding, reckless driving and unsafe operation of a motor vehicle in New Jersey and North Carolina, officials in those states said. Copyright © 2003, The Chicago Tribune
In alot of players contracts it forbids them from doing some activities. I won't be suprised if this is brought up. Parlett316 e;f,b
Wow...it is amazing that he did not die. Not wearing a helmet and hitting a pole...damn he could have easily busted his skull open. To add on to that he has a history of wreckless driving and doesn't have a bike license. I feel bad for the guy since you never wish anything like that on anyone, but it seems like his irresponsibility is the only thing to fault here. He is lucky to walk away with his life, and he should be thankful for that.
