Jason Kidd / Why settle for less - when we can get the best!

he is so loathed I couldn't even find a pic with him in a rockets uni !

 

Trading for Kidd would make us an instant contender for the next five years. Kidd is going to be like Stockton... he will still be one of the top 5 - 7 point guards in the league even when he is 40.

I don't know what it would take to get Kidd... but if it only involved MoTaylor (whom I like), Boki, draft picks, TE, MLE, KFC, ACLU, whatever short of Yao, TMac, JJ and Howard... get it done.

 

Kidd has a max contract for another 6 years! Damn I am right it's freaking SIX years! How you are going to pay Yao and T-Mac?

 

Jason would run Yao into the ground.

 

That's him on the left.

 

I will point out that Baron Davis is in NO these days....

 

I didnt bother reading many of the posts because I just had to get mine out as soon as possible...so if what Im saying has been stated, forgive me.

First off, if Kidd does, in fact, demand a trade, The Nets will get a superstar in return.

Do you really think Mo Taylor will bring us Jason Kidd?

Seriously. Im serious.

They could trade Kidd, and in exchange, get a solid PG and solid PF (to replace K Martin) in return.

This idea is unbelievable.

MoTay for Kidd....haha.

 

Money, Money, Money

If you have a knee problem, I can not sell my tickets.

 

LOL! that's some funny crap...

 

how about no. The guy is getting old and is coming off and injury. He has a huge contract. ANd to top it off yao will be tired after a minute playing iwth kid.

 

Okay, umm, we cannot afford Kidd. Denver signed and traded for K-Mart for draftpicks because they had the cap space to sign him outright and NJ didn't want to pay 90 million.

Of course any rational Rockets fan would want Kidd, but also any rational Rockets fan who knows a little more than crap about the NBA realizes that they don't have what it takes to acquire Kidd.

 

Any rational Heat fan who know a little more than crap about the NBA realizes that they don't have what it takes to acquire Shaq.

 

This is a stupid comparison. The Rockets can only give up old players that are mostly overpaid and young scrubs. The Heat gave up two young players with star potential.

 

The difference between the Rockets and the Heat is that we don't have anyone we'd be willing to give that the other team would take. We have some untouchables. The Heat were willing to give away some of their better players.

 

You boys been drinking grandpa's cough medicine again?

As per every thread on this board, you can't trade the trade exception with players. So we'd have to come up with about $15 million in salary to trade. This does not provide "cap relief" for the Nets.

It would, in a way, put us closer to JVG's goal of making us NY Knicks South.

 

I think every one of those contending teams with good point guards would love to ship theirs off for the best point guard in the league. The biggest issue, is that teams are going to want to see how his surgery turns out first. NJ needs to be patient, so they get maximum value from him.

But, I think its obvious, by what they did with Martin, that Kidd will be traded, and they will go down the rebuilding phase. They will WANT to have a few down years at the top of the lottery, and get their fan base to buy into them getting better each year, and excited about the rookies potential. They'll approach it somewhat like Denver, I think, where they might get rid of some big salaries, so they have room to get the right pieces, draft high, and have everyone peak in 4-5 years. I'm not sure that they will want to get a superstar in return, since he'd have the same type demands and issues as Kidd during rebuilding, like TMac.

If the new owner is cost conscious, and wants savings now, then our TE will have value. I'd be willing to give them Howard, Taylor, Boki, anyone but Yao and TMac. I don't think they'd want JJ. I doubt they'd want Taylor either, because of his high salary.

I think they'd rather get (1) reduction of salaries, (2) players with longer salaries who'd be content to be ther during the rebuilding, (3) older vets who could teach the rookies, (4) young talent they can rebuild with, and (5) draft picks, especially lottery ones.

Our ONLY chance, I think, is if someone somewhere would take Taylor for some cheaper parts with longer contracts, and some young players, but that chance is pretty low. Then we could ship them off to NJN, and take back a couple of their existing salaries using our TE. We could effectively cut almost 9 mil off their books, which would be attractive, and get them some players that would have to play there during the rebuilding phase. But, I think other teams could probably come up with better deals.

As far as having 3 max salaries, it'll all be about whether Les wants to pay the luxury tax, but most expect that to be done away with this year. We'll have everyone's Bird rights, so we won't have a problem signing them. We'd just be limited to draft picks and MLEs to pick up additional players. The showtime Lakers had 3 max stars, and they were champions against some great competition ...

So, I don't think its impossible for the Rockets to get him, but highly improbable, and we'd have to ask if we wanted him anyway, at his age and his injury. We would probably be better off getting a PG who is more in Yao and TMac's age group, and let them mature together. If Kidd was healthy, though, there's no doubt, he'd make us the team to beat next year. (not this year)

I just don't see it happening ... even if it is possible.

 

Hey, that's great that some of you think that getting Kidd could actually happen. BUT... you still haven't explained...

1) HOW we intend to pay 3 players the max (assuming, of course, that Mark Cuban doesn't wake up tomorrow and decide to buy the Rockets ).

2) HOW we can field a competitive team, since any Kidd trade will destroy what's left of our depth. Keep in mind the TE is NOT in play here, since you can't trade it with players. (Unless you intend for our 3 stars to play EVERY minute of EVERY game, depth is, uh, sort of important.) If you plan on adding more salary to the team, see #1.

3) WHY New Jersey would take our overpaid crap instead of getting a bona fide star in return (... and if you say MoT is a star, I'm going to hurt you).