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Jared ended testing plans because Kushner wanted blue state people to die

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  1. Carl Herrera

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    blue lives matter
     
  2. Sanctity

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    This is diabolical. America is treating it's people the way third world dictatorships do.
     
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    Repug posters here are still trying to run this trope.

    They still try to blame cuomo and similar when the reality is policies of the repugs is what has us in this disaster now and those states.. While ny flattened.

    This blew up on them like all else. Repugs have no shame or morals nothing surprises anymore.

    blinded them with science!
     
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  4. TheRealist137

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    150k people died. Trump and his regime are murderers.
     
  5. Andre0087

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    Smug looking son of a b****...someone needs to slap the **** out the whole family.
     
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    Everything changed April 6th I believe it was when the report came out that people of color were disproportionately dying of Covid.

    EVERYTHING

    The Trumper party cares about nothing but brutality, money, and power.
     
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    This was posted in the Trump Coronavirus Response thread. It was the right idea for a nationwide testing program and some the ideas developed by Kushner's team sounded like what was needed. The development though was taken by people with no experience in this type of operation and by politically connected insiders rather than experts. Also while it was stopped sounded like because of confusing viewpoints in the WH and political resistance from Republican governors and Trump in addition to that the virus appeared to be hitting blue states harder initially.
    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/202...s-secret-testing-plan-went-poof-into-thin-air

    How Jared Kushner’s Secret Testing Plan “Went Poof Into Thin Air”
    This spring, a team working under the president's son-in-law produced a plan for an aggressive, coordinated national COVID-19 response that could have brought the pandemic under control. So why did the White House spike it in favor of a shambolic 50-state response?

    BY KATHERINE EBAN

    JULY 30, 2020

    Some excerpts.
    Inside the White House, over much of March and early April, Kushner’s handpicked group of young business associates, which included a former college roommate, teamed up with several top experts from the diagnostic-testing industry. Together, they hammered out the outline of a national testing strategy. The group—working night and day, using the encrypted platform WhatsApp—emerged with a detailed plan obtained by Vanity Fair.

    Rather than have states fight each other for scarce diagnostic tests and limited lab capacity, the plan would have set up a system of national oversight and coordination to surge supplies, allocate test kits, lift regulatory and contractual roadblocks, and establish a widespread virus surveillance system by the fall, to help pinpoint subsequent outbreaks.

    The solutions it proposed weren’t rocket science—or even comparable to the dauntingly complex undertaking of developing a new vaccine. Any national plan to address testing deficits would likely be more on the level of “replicating UPS for an industry,” said Dr. Mike Pellini, the managing partner of Section 32, a technology and health care venture capital fund. “Imagine if UPS or FedEx didn’t have infrastructure to connect all the dots. It would be complete chaos.”


    The plan crafted at the White House, then, set out to connect the dots. Some of those who worked on the plan were told that it would be presented to President Trump and likely announced in the Rose Garden in early April. “I was beyond optimistic,” said one participant. “My understanding was that the final document would make its way to the president over that weekend” and would result in a “significant announcement.”

    But no nationally coordinated testing strategy was ever announced. The plan, according to the participant, “just went poof into thin air.”
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    Countries that have successfully contained their outbreaks have empowered scientists to lead the response. But when Jared Kushner set out in March to solve the diagnostic-testing crisis, his efforts began not with public health experts but with bankers and billionaires. They saw themselves as the “A-team of people who get **** done,” as one participant proclaimed in a March Politico article.

    Kushner’s brain trust included Adam Boehler, his summer college roommate who now serves as chief executive officer of the newly created U.S. International Development Finance Corporation, a government development bank that makes loans overseas. Other group members included Nat Turner, the cofounder and CEO of Flatiron Health, which works to improve cancer treatment and research.
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    Kushner’s team hammered out a detailed plan, which Vanity Fair obtained. It stated, “Current challenges that need to be resolved include uneven testing capacity and supplies throughout the US, both between and within regions, significant delays in reporting results (4-11 days), and national supply chain constraints, such as PPE, swabs, and certain testing reagents.”


    The plan called for the federal government to coordinate distribution of test kits, so they could be surged to heavily affected areas, and oversee a national contact-tracing infrastructure. It also proposed lifting contract restrictions on where doctors and hospitals send tests, allowing any laboratory with capacity to test any sample. It proposed a massive scale-up of antibody testing to facilitate a return to work. It called for mandating that all COVID-19 test results from any kind of testing, taken anywhere, be reported to a national repository as well as to state and local health departments.

    And it proposed establishing “a national Sentinel Surveillance System” with “real-time intelligence capabilities to understand leading indicators where hot spots are arising and where the risks are high vs. where people can get back to work.”

    By early April, some who worked on the plan were given the strong impression that it would soon be shared with President Trump and announced by the White House. The plan, though imperfect, was a starting point. Simply working together as a nation on it “would have put us in a fundamentally different place,” said the participant.

    But the effort ran headlong into shifting sentiment at the White House. Trusting his vaunted political instincts, President Trump had been downplaying concerns about the virus and spreading misinformation about it—efforts that were soon amplified by Republican elected officials and right-wing media figures. Worried about the stock market and his reelection prospects, Trump also feared that more testing would only lead to higher case counts and more bad publicity. Meanwhile, Dr. Deborah Birx, the White House’s coronavirus response coordinator, was reportedly sharing models with senior staff that optimistically—and erroneously, it would turn out—predicted the virus would soon fade away.

    Against that background, the prospect of launching a large-scale national plan was losing favor, said one public health expert in frequent contact with the White House’s official coronavirus task force.

    Most troubling of all, perhaps, was a sentiment the expert said a member of Kushner’s team expressed: that because the virus had hit blue states hardest, a national plan was unnecessary and would not make sense politically. “The political folks believed that because it was going to be relegated to Democratic states, that they could blame those governors, and that would be an effective political strategy,” said the expert.
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    “I had this naive optimism: This is too important to be caught in a partisan filter of how we view truth and the world,” said Rick Klausner, a Rockefeller Foundation adviser and former director of the National Cancer Institute. “But the federal government has decided to abrogate responsibility, and basically throw 50 states onto their own.”
    More at link.
     
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    Sometimes, I think that this country doesn't care about people dying when they are poor, brown, old or disabled. Then, Sandy Hook happened and I realized a substantial swath of the country doesn't even care when cute little white kids die.
     
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    clowns on here say it’s liberals who are rooting for more deaths

    Will they respond to this? Probably not, because they have no principles.
     
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    The death rate toll has been way up the last 3-4 days....... almost 1,500 dead yesterday, the highest single day since May..... the day before yesterday it was over 1,400 and over 1,300 the day before that.

    I don't know how much longer until some Republicans just submit to science and facts.
     
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    Can they do anything that isn't shady AF?
     
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    #12 gifford1967, Jul 31, 2020
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    we are at the point where if there were a headline that read "Trump and Jared Kushner enjoy eating babies", Carl would believe it and circulate it unquestioningly
     
  14. KingCheetah

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    I knew it!
     
  15. Carl Herrera

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    they will just give up and let people die.
     
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  16. Carl Herrera

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    They do?
     
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    My hope is that there is enough of a document paper trail left over from this presidency so that the next group can easily bring up charges against everyone associated with this and just about everything else.
     
  18. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    What's more interesting is that you don't seem bothered at all that they play politics with people's lives.

    A national response could have cut deaths significantly. Fact is no matter how you slice it, their response cost American lives, and you don't seem to give a damn. Why? How do you rationalize your support?
     
  19. Amiga

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    If true, Jared is clearly a mole from the Biden campaign. Or he’s very politically stupid and evil.
     
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    Is incompetence a federal crime?
     
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