It helps when Germany and France held a history commision over an agreeable account between the two. Their rivalry was bloodier pre-WW2 than China or Japan's. That's why there isn't a textbook row like what's happening in Asia. Then again, Germany's contrition was more pronounced and tangible in their legislation. The Japanese have no such barriers.
You are absolutely right, those low life 30 million Chinese comparing to 6 million Jews are just numbers on paper, without any meaning. You are the first one to call what happened at Tiananmen Square in 1989 as atrocities and actually compare that to war crimes in WWII. You should seriously consider applying for patent. What happened in GLF was horrible to Chinese people, but that has nothing to do Japanese war atrocities in WWII. You don't need to be sensitive enough to feel others' pain, nor is expected. But to suggest some deep pain is nothing, simply because they suffered other pains in the past, is just too generous.
Its more like 7 million, but thats still more then the jews. Mabey china should demand some territories in the middle east
Man, I mean really, wasn't the war over 60+ years ago? Most people alive today were not involved in the war. Why should any government apolgoize for things decades old, and not a part of the current administration? There are more important things going on in the world today..... DD
Of course it is over 60 years ago but many people including my parents lived through that period. Why are there such a big fuss over the Iranian president's comment in the west then? Iran didn't even commit those atrocities.
I don't know if it's because you like to comment on things you don't really know, or it's that your world view prevent you to understand the alternative perspectives. In any event, you keep on making some senseless and insensitive comments in DnD. It's not just about "current administration" apologize for some war "60 years" ago. It's about the faluire of every Japanese governments afterward to fully acknowledge, about brush-over in the history books, about worshipping war criminals in a shrine despite protests all over the Asia, about still-alive jingoist element in Japanese elite. Oh, and just because "There are more important things going on in the world today" doesn't mean people can't express their (hurt) feelings. Maybe it's a bit harsh, but perhaps whoever told you to stick with making vedio game was right.
Personally, I am never interested in an apology. But I do have problem with government officials to worship executed war criminals, and I do have a big problem with government effort to fabricate history. An insincere apology means nothing, but actions say a lot. That's not events occurred 60 years ago, but today. China was attacked by lots of countries in history, but Chinese don't bring them up often, except for the Japanese war atrocities. Why? It's not Chinese can't get over it, but rather Japanese can't get over it. They were still examining what could have done differently to keep hold onto the Chinese lands. There was not a single once of guilt expressed through any Japanese government officials, which does represent the view of a large percentage of Japanese people. What does that mean? That means they will do it again, if given the chance. That's happening today. Meanwhile, there is war atrocities in each war. But what Japanese troops did, systematically, including using Chinese civilians as targets to train killing skills, train military dogs, test biological weapons etc etc. The "innovative" way to kill civilians for fun was unheard of. Even German officials, while committing atrocities towards Jews, called those actions from Japanese troops as "disgrace of human being", and "disgrace of any military". Not to start my "victim rant", but rather show you that it is a big deal to ethnical Chinese, that Japanese officials worship executed war criminals, including those ones who openly admitted their war crimes during Sino-Japan war. Some of them not only gave commands to systematically kill civilians, but also killed and raped for fun on their own, and recorded by diaries and photos. So, it's a big deal to lots of Chinese. But an apology? That never interests me.
Or...perhaps everyone KNOWS the atrocities, and doesn't give a flying FART whether they are included in the Japanese textbooks. No one is denying they happened, heck, if it weren't for the US support of China during that period it probably would have completely fallen to Japan. Was it terrible? Of course it was, and Japan should be able to write it's own textbooks, as should Iran, and yes people can be upset about it. But comeon....people are blowing themselves up in the world, are we really upset about what is in a textbook? Well, I guess some are, but I think in today's informational society...ie the internet the truth is easily discovered by everyone, including the Japanese. DD
I was about to write a point by point rebute. But on second thought, I would not. Why bother. You ain't a worthy opponent of debate. Just that you know, in "today's informational society", the biggest threat is people blowing themselves up on planes. And someone was calling some moderates to "stand up". Irony, isn't it?
What a r****d, if you were Jewish and Germans say they didn't do anything wrong killing Jewish you would care for sure
Textbook has always been a large part in brain washing and mass opinion controlling process throughout history. Don't trust too much of public willingness to seek for truth, especially a different version of official government position or party line. Without brain washing, there wouldn't be GLF; without brain washing, there wouldn't be human bombs; without brain washing, those 50% Americans would not believe that WMDs were found in Iraq. Therefore, history text books is a very good starting point to prevent or help "more important things going on in the world today". JMHO.
Thank god you didn't bother to post. And with information freely available - Well I guess not in China - it is easy to find out the truth if you seek it. Sure the Japanese committed HORRIBLE war crimes to the Chinese, and to anyone else they encountered in WW2, including US soldiers in their concentration/work camps. However, as a US citizen, I don't mind if the Japanese don't talk about their grandparents killing innocent people and murdering POWs in children's textbooks. Morality is not what should be taught in school but at home and in -gasp- the church. DD
DD, given that "Islam needs to stand up to extremists" is the theme of so many of your D&D posts, I'm pretty amazed that you would miss the parallels here. Many of today's Islamic suicide bombers having been taught that violence in the name of Islam is noble. Thus, the bombers are able to morally justify their terrorist actions, and allows them to be manipulated by corrupt Islamic leaders. Even though the bulk of Islamic students (probably even those from the extremist schools) don't become terrorists, we can see how an aggressive minority can hijack an entire religion. Similarly, if Japanese students are indeed being taught that Japan's actions in WWII were purely noble, this potentially creates a generation who might excuse war crimes so long as it's done under some "noble" cause for Japan. Extremism rarely emerges fully formed - it develops over time as circumstances allow. And if the other elements (poverty, political unrest) that lead to extremism were to become a problem in Japan, we might see this lead to renewed aggression with their neighbors. No, this isn't a big deal now, but it could potentially be a big deal in the future. BTW, you assume too much that people will look up the "truth" on the internet.
