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James Harden's Brooklyn Nets

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by jerryclark, Jan 13, 2021.

  1. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    They only lost once to a winning team. Wouldn't be surprised at all if they don't lose again this season.
     
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  2. riko

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    22 points 10 boards 8 assists ( could have easily had 13 or more had Jeff green and Jordan not fumbled so many beautiful pocket passes.
     
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    it's huge he can be the best player of a team even a top 3 MVP contender without being required to score 35 points a night, game planned against, and triple teamed. that's alot of burden taken off his shoulders and pressure of his chest.
     
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    With all of the praise James Harden is getting...its Championship or bust. No other way around it. KD, Kyrie, Blake..no excuses.
     
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    vlaurelio Contributing Member

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    boston celtics were so worried about Harden handling the ball they have 3 guys go after him and 2 other guys' eyes glued on him ignoring the whole fact that they have 40pt Kyrie on the floor

     
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  6. Rocket River

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    He was off last night
    Some of his passes were not crisp
    others hit people in the hands and fumbled

    Rocket River
     
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    Nobody is acting like that did not happen but the debate is if they could have been even better, Top 5 player impact.

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    For the record I don't think Kyrie was that mature to make that kind of impact but as talent goes I would take him over CP3 just look at what he did to GSW in the finals.
     
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    and the answer to that debate is no

    yes, CP3 had top 5 player impact his 1st year here...he even lead the league in RPM

    Kyrie Irving missed the entire 2018 playoffs because of injury, and he was not good enough the following season in 18-19 to ever replicate the level of play CP3 had his 1st season here
     
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  9. Air Langhi

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    Cp3 has the pheonix sun's as the 2nd seed. Kyrie couldn't take the Cavs to the playoffs in the East and quit on the Celtics.
     
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    With all of the praise?

    Utah is not getting praise?
    Philly is not getting praise?

    Blake?
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  11. jiggyfly

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    CP3 has Booker and several other ascending great young players are you really comparing this Suns team to that Cleve team?

    Name the 2nd best player on that Cleve team.
     
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    yeah even in an offnight the all 5 opponents were still worried about him totally ignoring Kyrie on that play
     
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    Ok we can just agree to disagree.
     
  14. Loneyroy7

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    Harden may very well be the greatest ISO playmaker of all-time.

    As far as beating your individual defender with the purpose of getting your teammate a good shot.
     
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  15. Air Langhi

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    Devon Booker isn't playing as well as he was last year. What about thunder last year? No one was picking them to make the playoffs.
     
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    KD has barely played. Kyrie has missed like 8 games and is likely to have off nights. Blake hasn't played that well for the past 15 months. It's not like Harden has had 3 to 4 all-stars around all season. He's literally only had Kyrie, and even he's missed games.

    It all depends if they stay healthy. If they stay healthy, nobody is beating the Nets. If they get Drummond, it's basically a wrap. I heard they're also interested in Tucker.
     
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    Dude was the #1 overall pick and couldn't drag any version of a Cavs team to the playoffs in the weak East.

    Sure, he's not supposed to be LeBron James and be expected to contend for a title every year. But Kyrie couldn't even make it to the playoffs.
     
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    Sorry man I'm not even sure how you are debating this. Chris Paul is a way better player than Kyrie. It's not even close. Kyrie can score and has a very aesthetically pleasing game so people over rate him. His on court impact is nothing compared to CP3. CP3 had the Thunder as the fourth seed last year...

    By the advanced numbers Chris Paul is rated as the best PG in nba history. His assist to turnover ratio blows everyone out the water. He has the second highest playoff PER for a guard to Michael Jordan.
    not to mention he's one of the best defenders and smartest defenders.

    I will say Harden has unlocked the best version of Kyrie. He's really simplified the game for him and told him to just be a scorer which he thrives at.
     
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    Apparently Dinwiddie could be headed to to raptors for Boucher or whatever his name is and Baynes.
     
  20. vlaurelio

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    apples to oranges

    cp3 is a past prime elite pg while irving is an elite sg

    it really depends who they are playing with and how's the fit, compliment, and overlap

    just like harden with cp3 vs harden with kyrie

    harden & cp3 has alot of overlap. though both are elite pg's, both need and dominate the ball. both won't play off ball.

    harden & kyrie is a more ideal/efficient fit. harden elite playmaking & on-ball scoring with kyrie elite off-ball scoring with playmaking.
     

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