James Harden is gonna get screwed over again in MVP Voting

What was the O/U on the number of games Anderson/Gordon would play?

 

Well, Butler sort of qualified his remark by following up with "if you replace Harden with another playmaker", but that's stupid. Why not make that same argument about the Thunder and Westbrook? If we're doing the "what would this team be without this player" hypothetical, then do it the same for both the Thunder and Rockets. Don't say "Thunder without Westbrook" and "Rockets without Harden.....but replaced by another playmaker".

 

It is well documented that they let WB get DRebounds so that he can orchestrate and start the Offense faster and more efficiently than have the big man rebound and try to pass to the point guard Russ.

They could generate faster possessions with that. It is a reasonable call.

 

Oh please... No self respecting big man is going to give up rebounds to a guard to start a fast break. It's embarrassing and the OKC bigs are willingly beta-ass p*****s.

I have to ask, is it also reasonable that Westbrook defends shooters worst (by far) than any other player in the league? Is it reasonable that Westbrook leads the league (by far) in missed FT rebounding? Call it like it is friend..., bush league fabricated stats.

 

So you agree that his stats are inflated because of the style of play? So how special is this "triple double". That is the only avenue he has over Harden. Sure isn't defense, efficiency, wins, making others better.

 

im pretty sure it's based on if the team stays relatively healthy the entire year.

 

I highly doubt it. Gordon/Anderson have a history of injury. There's no way Vegas would assume relative health for those guys.

 

kyrie and love are injury prone and still had an over under of 56.5 wins.

the clippers are injury prone and still had an over under of 53.5 wins.

 

Generally, the OKC bigs only "let" Westbrook get free throw rebounds. In live action, Westbrook will usually legitimately beat them to the rebound.

 

http://www.sbnation.com/2017/1/20/14284896/houston-rockets-three-point-stats-mike-dantoni

Why do you want to convince me? I am ok whomever they vote.

If you found a way to make stable bucks wouldn't you do it? He has found a way to rebound. The opponent could still fight for the rebound there.

This is like saying Harden makes Gordon, Anderson and Lou better 3 point shooters.

Yup, he feeds them good passes but Dantoni created this way behind the line 3 pointers.

Those guys were good 3 pt shooters before Harden and before they joined the Rockets.

They are actually helping Harden getting more assists as well. It goes both ways.

This "inflation" thing is just a joke, it makes us fans look sour grapes, and that is also a reason the public do not like the Rockets as much.

We should just say whoever gets it, deserves it and find a way to influence the rules of voting and who should be eligible to vote next time instead.

Sad really.

 

REAL MVP.

 

Well if Harden is drawing the defense and kicking out to them open then they will become better shooters.

 

Are Irving/Love really injury prone? In Love's last 3 seasons, he's played 77, 75, and 77 games. Irving played 71, 75, and 53, and the 53 game season resulted from him fracturing his kneecap in the preceding year's playoffs.

Regarding the Clippers, only Griffin is injury prone, and 53.5 wins seems reasonable with a healthy Paul, Jordan, and supporting players. In the 2015-2016 season, Blake Griffin only played 35 games while everyone else was relatively healthy. The Clippers ended up winning 53 games.

So it looks like the Vegas projections do consider injury risk.

 

What's your point? Like I said, for the most part, Westbrook legitimately beats the bigs to the rebound during live action. In that video, there's only one instance of a big actually giving Westbrook a rebound during live action. The rest are ft rebounds.

 

want real NBA analysis ?? Vegas knows what the **** its doing lol

 

Soooooo, just checking into this thread after last night's OKC/Nuggets game.....

 

Which Houston does not do to that extreme. There were many more cases of allowing Westbrook to get rebounds in live action that you will ignore to your narrative. If Houston's game plan was to allow Harden to do this then he would average a triple double as well. Just shows Westbrook as a stat chaser.

 

Eric Gordon is shooting 37.4% from the 3pt line this year. In his last 3 years with the Pelicans, he averaged 38.4%, 44.8%, and 39.1%

 

no matter what 41 wins is still low even if you factor injuries.

 

It's pretty pathetic of the western media to bring up that harden has the better team, however when curry won it, that never came into play.
narratives.