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James Harden is gonna get screwed over again in MVP Voting

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by HardenTime, Jan 1, 2017.

  1. JayGoogle

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    Yep.

    Also, what if Westbrook does it again next season? Does he just get the MVP award for averaging a triple double? Will that be the guarantee to getting the award from now on?

    I think you have to award winning first and foremost. Harden has his team top 5 and everyone is acting like that is just expected. So next year if the Rockets finish top 5 then he'll have less of a chance to win it because then it'd really be expected.
     
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  2. Reeko

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    next year Harden's main competition will be Kawhi...I doubt that Westbrook would get rewarded 2 years in a row for putting up stats on a bottom seed playoff team
     
  3. TheRealist137

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    If Harden doesn't win MVP this year I think he will go into depression. We saw what happened after he got snubbed in 2015, not good. I think this time it will be even worse. He might marry a Kardashian to cope. He might lose the will to compete.
     
  4. Reeko

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    I think he'll still have a pretty good shot next season to win the award. If he can average something like 28, 7, and 10 to go along with just 4-5 turnovers per game while the Rockets win close to 60 games then he can still get his 1st MVP. The triple double narrative will have lost its luster, and it should be easier to overcome Kawhi Leonard then it is to overcome Westbrook's historic season.
     
  5. J Sizzle

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    Media will just find a new narrative to cling to, and it surely will not be a pro-Harden narrative.
     
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    It's an award for individual and personal success. It is NOT an award for contrived (entire OKC team orchestrating) individual success. So yea Harden or Kawhi (my two choices) would be getting screwed over.
     
  7. Reeko

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    True. Kawhi's narrative will probably be that he's the best 2-way player in the NBA. However, that's an easier narrative to beat than Westbrook's triple doubles. Plus, Kawhi won't be able to put up the guady stats that Harden does. 28, 7, and 10 will be a lot more eye popping than Kawhi's 25, 6, and 3 or whatever he'll probably end up averaging.
     
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  8. ipaman

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    Voters keep moving the goalposts away from Harden because of bias and narrative. Harden would have to have an amazing season and get #1 seed to have a chance to win.
     
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    It will always be something. It has nothing to do with stats, or record. It's all about hating on Harden the man, and behind him Houston the city, because Harden didn't get this hate in OKC.
     
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    The Kawhi narrative is already starting. That he's amazing on defense and offense, so this is an argument Harden will never win. I'm already predicting next years MVP canidates.

    Anthony Davis...Kawhi Leonard

    For Davis if he gets his team around 5th seed he'll be in the discussion and for Kawhi it'll be his defense.

    Westbrook unless the Thunder get another superstar will average another triple double and the media won't care about it and it will have lost its luster.
    Never forget that they didn't vote him to an All-NBA team.
     
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    This **** pisses me off. Several of my Clutchfans brethren could easily destroy these weak Westbrook arguments and completely embarrass Skip and Broussard at the debate desk.
     
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    Hahaha idiot mouth breathers Chris sauces Broussard and Skip Brainless at it again
     
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    This is correct. Harden winning MVP will never equate to a good story for the NBA, which is half the battle.

    The viral defense video is something he'll never live down
     
  15. DonKnock

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    Harden is going to end the season with the most points created by one player ever.


    The only reason it's not more important to the media is because dummies on their couch know how to count to 10.

    The triple double record isn't like the home run record in baseball or the single season yards record in football.


    Hell, JUST LAST YEAR people were taking all kinds of shots at Oscar because he said he didn't like the Warriors.

    http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/o...e-interesting-takes-on-warriors-state-of-nba/


    It was "get out of here 'get off my lawn' guy!:mad:"

    But now these same jokers are acting like they've had nothing but the highest reverence for Oscar this whole time. :rolleyes:
     
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    Its crazy how they are so adament about someone who is averaging basically 2 more rebounds then harden for MVP.
    They tend to always discount that only are Houston the 3 seed in the west but they also have the 3rd best record in the enitre NBA.We only have 1 Star and still no acknowledgment of this big achievement.
    We have a better record then the cavs and they play in the east.
    Harden has 8 wins over him with a comparable supporting cast given that preseason predictions had OKC projected with more wins. How is this even a discussion. You can not give someone an MVP because he averaged 2 more rebounds then the #2 candidate it makes 0 sense
     
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    Westbrook is averaging 10.4 assists. That's exactly what he did last year. His FG% is worse...But he is averaging 2.9 more rebounds, because Durant left and everyone else on the Thunder are legit scared to get rebounds from him
     
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    Locke has Harden as his MVP, with Westrbook 4th. And Nate Duncan has Westbrook as his MVP, with Harden 4th. Interesting dichotomy.

     
  20. Reeko

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    You're right, but hardly anybody on TV is making these points. Jared Greenberg on NBA TV, Howard Beck, and to a much lesser extent Stephen A. Smith are the only ones I can think of that have brought up some good points in Harden's favor.
     
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