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James Ennis sucks on defense.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by bmd, Oct 21, 2018.

  1. HP3

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    we dont know how much we offered for him.
     
  2. elmotsangtt

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    Soft sxxt. We can start melo vs jazz
     
  3. aelliott

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    Ariza has shot right around league average on 3s. Some seasons he's slightly above and others he's slightly below the league average. That tends to indicate that he's an average 3 point shooter.

    Your argument is that his percentage is lower because he takes a higher volume. Ok, let's see how he stacks up against the guys who shoot lots of 3s.
    There were 66 players that attempted 5 or more 3 pointers per game. Ariza's percentage ranked 58th among those 66 high volume shooters. That puts him in the bottom 13.6% of those shooters so among higher volume shooters, he's below average.
     
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  4. HP3

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    Well stats there, you are probably right he is indeed an average 3 pt shooter. Thanks for the knowledge.

    However, none of these stats mean that James Ennis will somehow magically become a better 3 point shooter than Ariza(hope im wrong lol) when most of his career hes taken significantly less 3s than Ariza on lower or similar percentages. Ariza may not be elite, or maybe even above average 3 point shooter but he is indeed much better than Ennis. And I still contend that he is a great team defender which has nothing to do with this argument haha.
     
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  5. aelliott

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    Ennis will get wide open 3s here, those help his percentages greatly. Up to now Ennis is a 36.1% from behind the arc in his career. Ariza is a career 35.3% shooter on threes.

    Ariza never shot 33% until his 8th season. He started shooting more 3s and his percentages went up. Will Ennis have an increase in his percentage as he gets use to shooting more 3s? I don't know as nobody else does.

    What I find ridiculous is that people have decided that Ennis can't shoot even though he was on fire from behind the arc in the preseason (56%) and he's at nearly 43% so far in the regular season. He's shot the ball really well and he's been consistent. Including preseason, he's played in 8 games and he's shot at least 40% on threes in 7 of the 8 games.

    Judge him on what he's done in our system. So far he's been way better from 3 than I expected.
     
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  6. HP3

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    Yea it will no arguments here. Again, the fact that percentages are so close when Ariza takes way way more 3s than him pretty much means Ariza is and has been a better shooter.

    Its doubtful. But I really hope so.

    No no , I believe he can be good. But expecting him to be better than Ariza on volume 3s can wait until waaaaaaaaay later after hes played at least 20 or more games with us.

    Yea thats fine, I agree.
     
  7. kingkingston

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    sounds like Ariza
     
  8. aelliott

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    People remember Ariza fondly but the numbers tell a different story:


    '17-'18 ISOLATION Defense (Points Per Possession allowed)
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    Luc Mbah a Moute 0.44 PPP
    PJ Tucker 0.73 PPP
    Chris Paul 0.76 PPP
    James Harden 0.80 PPP
    Ryan Anderson 0.83 PPP
    Clint Capela 0.83 PPP
    Eric Gordon 0.84 PPP
    Trevor Ariza 0.90 PPP
    Nene Hilario 0.96 PPP
    Gerald Green 1.00 PPP

    '17-18 Post Defense (Points Per Possession Allowed)
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    James Harden 0.73 PPP
    Eric Gordon 0.80 PPP
    PJ Tucker 0.83 PPP
    Gerald Green 0.85 PPP
    Luc Mbah a Moute 0.91 PPP
    Nene Hilario 0.94 PPP
    Ryan Andeson 0.95 PPP
    Clint Capela 0.96 PPP
    Trevor Ariza 1.00 PPP
    Chris Paul 1.01 PPP

    '17-'18 Pick and Roll - Roll Man Defense ( Points Per Possession Allowed)
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    James Harden 0.56 PPP
    Eric Gordon 0.75 PPP
    Chris Paul 0.80 PPP
    Clint Capela 0.86 PPP
    Gerald Green 1.00 PPP
    Nene Hilario 1.00 PPP
    Ryan Anderson 1.07 PPP
    PJ Tucker 1.09 PPP
    Luc Mbah a Moute 1.20 PPP
    Trevor Ariza 1.44 PPP

    '17-'18 Pick and Roll - Ball Man Defense ( Points Per Possession Allowed)
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    Clint Capela 0.43 PPP
    Ryan Anderson 0.71 PPP
    Chris Paul 0.72 PPP
    Gerald Green 0.76 PPP
    Eric Gordon 0.79 PPP
    James Harden 0.84 PPP
    Luc Mbah a Moute 0.87 PPP
    Trevor Ariza 0.93 PPP
    Nene Hilario 2.00 PPP
     
  9. PWR

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    Prior to last night...

    The Jazz were averaging scoring 110 ppg their first three games.

    The Rockets were giving up an average of 114 ppg their first three games.

    Last night, our worst defender (Ennis & his 83.3% fg allowance) was out and the Jazz scored only 100 points.

    The minutes for MCW (50% fg allowance) and Melo (55.6% fg allowance) increased, so they improved the defense by a 14 point margin over when Ennis plays.

    The stats don't lie. Ennis better get it together defensively.
     
  10. aelliott

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    I've already pointed out that the stat that you keep quoting isnt an accurate stat but rather an estimate. Your last post even quotes the reply when I told you it wasnt accurate. You continue to quote the inaccurate stat. Nice.

    Yes, the Jazz scored 100 points last night. That is the same Jazz team that only scored 84 points in a loss to Memphis on Monday. So they improved 16 points last night over Mondays game. How is that relevant?
     
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    Rockets' DRtg with Melo on court: 116.1

    Rockets' DRtg with Melo off court: 105.3

    Rockets' DRtg last season: 105.6
     
  12. Mr. Clutch

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    Meh, I'd take this with a hefty grain of salt. It is hard to assign responsibility in certain situations like pick and roll, plus Ariza usually drew the toughest assignments. If he's limiting top scorers to .90 ppp in isolation, that's pretty good.

    The question with Ennis is can take those tough assignments and also switch to guard 1-4. The latter might be less relevant now that they are going against switching (or maybe they realize he probably can't guard 4s and 1s like Ariza did).
     
  13. bmd

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    Carmelo sucks on defense too.
     
  14. J.R.

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    #notadowngrade #runitback :p

     
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  15. aelliott

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    You can try and minimize it any way that you like but the fact is that Ariza was one of the lowest rated defenders in practically every category across the board.

    Did you notice that LMM had a PPP of .444 in isolation? Tucker .73 last year . Those guys guarded the best offensive players too.
     
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  16. Tom Bombadillo

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    I'm excited to get James Ennis back.
     
  17. hakeem94

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    16 games we played without ariza last year and we won them all save 1 where we sit out the best players
     
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    Well, your argument centers around 3pt shooting.

    While it has been important last season, the most important thing was Defense and guys knew the place to switch.
     
  19. daywalker02

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    Well, this was posted in September. Now we sit calmly at whatever below average seed.
     
  20. daywalker02

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    Dun blame him. Clippers are his first choice, he was a Clipper way before he became a Rocket.
     

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