Jalen had a GOOD yr, bad Playoff series. And many of us knew, he just does not play well against GS. Never has. Hakeem use to struggle against the Jazz when they had Mark Eden and Harden would struggle against players who were long and athletic.....IT HAPPENS! Am I pissed we lost again to the Warriors....YES! Am I pissed Jalen had a bad series....YES! But this series showed more than flaws in Jalen Green, it showed flaws in our offensive system! We are a team that play for 2's, when everyone else is playing for 3's. We took 18 3's! 18! Both FVV and Ime said it during their pressers. We were in effective inside and didn't get up enough 3's. I KNOW MANY ON HERE ARE GOING TO DISAGREE BUT....I think the Rocket's problem is more Alpi, than Jalen. STEVE KERR NEVER DOUBLED ALPI, ONLY JALEN! Because Alpi is taking up 10 seconds of the Shot clock to score a 2 pt basket. Any coach will give that up. Alpi has to get at a minimum, a Mid Range shot. He has to spread the court. It's too hard for the guards to drive when he is down low, camped in the paint.....It becomes a his turn,.my turn type of an offense. If he can develop a outside shot, it makes it easier for the guards to penetrate.
Listen carefully to Ime: Don't think they are trading him. I think what's about to happen is they will move Alpi out of the paint and have him take more 3's. Amen had single coverage all series and they sagged off him a ton. He only got 16 points on 12 shots. To unleash him you need more spacing and more transition points. He's capable of so much more. Having him be in the dunkers spot is going to be a thing of the past. Having him wait around while Sengun/FVV run a PnR is over. If you bring more spacing and pace, Jalen will flourish. I'm telling you on this darkest day of Jalen's career. Yes I do believe in him despite the atrocious output. I do wish he went against the coach and forced the issue out of the blitz more often but I don't think that would've gone well for his future on the team. It's literally not possible to have a worse environment for getting to the bucket than what we had and that's behind us now. You can't even think of a way to have less space in the paint than we had. They did everything Ime asked and the results were poor for everyone except the offensive rebounders EXACTLY as I told you it would be if we played 2 non-shooters the entire games. That's as positive a spin as I could put on that garbage series. Curious to hear what the rockets beat writers are fed the next couple of weeks.
The good news is he's so bad that there are a ton of players who would be an upgrade over him. Honestly an MLE signing would almost certainly be a better player to fit in around Sengun and Thompson. Really really wish we hadn't signed him to that extension. Seemed like a moderately bad idea at the time but now looks like a freaking disaster.
It was worse than just a bad series honestly, his body language towards needing to pass out of the blitz was bad and the few times he'd drive he would do it very meekly. A big chunk is on Ime for the series but Jalen's performance wasn't good enough even if they were blitzing.
i mean it's kind of funny. for the green fans, (like me unfortunately), he played soo poorly that he will probably not be traded unless we massively overpay.
Jalen has got to be paying some of these posters a lot of money to be sucking him off. That’s all I’m sayin
JG said it himself after the game. They took him out of the game. That can't happen regardless of the scheme. His role is to score (numero uno) and he didn't deliver. We can blame Alpi/Amen/spacing/playstyle/youth/lack of experience/etc. Fair enough. Those points have merit. In any case, you can't let them shut you off the way they did. His output is unacceptable. Let this brother realize his potential somewhere else. You perform this way in any other profession you get fired. There is no way around it. We already have 2 flawed building blocks. Don't need a 3rd one who's not even close to the first 2. Would you respect this guy's game as a team mate? You can like him, love him but not respect him after what happened. He's unreliable. Don't give these younglings the wrong message. Let him go.
Hakeem is a generational talent. Green is Jordan Poole 2.0. Why bring up those comparisons at all? I don't agree with your comment about him having a good year either. Defense wise, it's been an improvement. Offense wise, his shooting splits and efficiency is pretty much the same it's always been.
So Kerr, Ime, Adams, Draymond, Curry all wrong when they said they schemed to stop him the issue is JG needed to be aggressive - I’ve said that several times Ime after Game 3 when they asked him specifically about how GS guarded JG, he said JG played it how they wanted it and got ball to middle and they didn’t capitalize. ( so he followed the gameplan) JG can’t win with some folks - if he forced 3s and went 2-11 each game folks would be complaining about him taking bad shots if he shot below 40% jacking multiple middies per game, same folks would be complaining about that Did he have a horrible series outside of 3 games? Yes Did coaching staff do him any type of favors in attempting to get him open? No Could he have been more aggressive attacking the scheme? Yes 23yr SG who played 82 games and team was the 2nd seed got schemed to be shutdown by a championship coach - says a lot and to support just how bad Ime was in adjusting - post game Draymond shouted out Bari who GS was afraid of and Ime managed to get the man only 4.8 FGA a game - he shot 55% and 47% from 3 and we couldn’t scheme to get him more looks and he wasn’t even being schemed against … yet you shocked our SG who was being actively schemed against couldn’t get more than 11 FGA post game 2
First of all, I think we just disagree on what transpired and what the Rockets need to do moving forward. Secondly, people tend to lash out by saying words like "STUPIDITY", "IGNORANT", etc when they can not properly respond. I think you just need to take time out and THINK about what the Rockets need to do moving forward, rather than lashing out and not really saying anything worth while.
I brought up those examples as incidents ROCKET FANS can relate to. Things we have seen in the past, not so.much as player comparisons.
exactly - and Ime even thinking it was effective is a huge red flag - it wasn’t, we just spammed it …and GS had no fear of FVV driving because they ended up with a steal or a block 90% of the time - they didn’t want us getting up 3s …. I said it after Game 3 where we only attempted 28 and GS attempted 45 and we made 3 less 3pters than GS
Defense is half the game of basketball. If he improved defensively, then he improved overall obviously. Also he improved his 3PT% while increasing his 3PA; a clear improvement. He shot 40% on catch and shoot this season. If he improves as much this summer as last summer, he'll be a 37.6% shooter on 9+ attempts a game next season. To put that in perspective, that would be better than Damian Lillard's career averages (volume and efficiency). Most important of all, Udoka flat out disagrees with you.
I think you're right! Jalen's problem is all mental! When he first got here, he was all fast pace, well Ime has slowed him down and made him focus on the finer points; defense, playmaking, etc. He needs to fined a balance. How to stay aggressive, when they are taking you out of the game. Sengun has improved defensively! BUT he has to expand his offensive game. The Rockets can not continue giving him the ball in the paint with 10 seconds on the clock, while others are standing around.....THATS 80'S - 90'S BASKETBALL. If he is BABY JOKIC, he needs expand his range. I would give both players another yr, because I don't see anyone out there of significance, other than Giannas. I think the main thing is, they need another scorer in the starting unit or off the bench.
Jalen cant win period. That's the issue. He knows the same thing you know. He's a bad shooter that knows hes a bad shooter and if he puts up that many shots, he'll miss most of them. So he resorted to doing nothing because he cant do anything. That's who he is at this point. Jalen knows who he is. That's why he played how he played. Amen cant shoot worth a lick and still generates offense. Jalen cant. He's easy to defend. Same for Jabari. That's not a coaching issue. It's a player issue. Jabari is afraid of dribbling. The Warriors knew that and essentially rendered him useless. Jalen is afraid of missing and it showed as well. It is what it is.
All GREAT points! I said it before the series started that Jabari was the key! I know FVV won us games 4 and 5 but I still think by playing Jabari more, he could have won us the series. He effects more than just scoring, he opens the court for Jalen! By taking Jabari out, it effected two players, Jabari and Jalen!
I guarantee you put Bari on GS or any decent offensive coach and he’s shooting at minimum 8 3pt shots a game and prob averaging 15-18 FGA a game our offense had no plays drawn up outside of the JG or FVV high PNR / dribble handoff involving Alpi the fact Ime said we were effective in the paint when Alpi shot less than 60% under 5ft and under 45% under 10ft … and even worse 1 on 1 vs Draymond / Looney while GS managed to double up on 3pt attempts vs us .. shows just how unaware our coaching staff is. Ime first reaction is always more defense - vs making any type of adjustment …to get guys easy shots … we don’t generate many open looks
