Posted this back in October: So far, Jalen is having the best shooting year of his short career with the best stats hes had in almost all shooting categories. And that is with some not so great stretches here and there. Also, he's shooting the most threes he's shot in his career. If he can get up to a 38ish percent 3pt shooter, maybe slightly improve his 2pt% and be around 90% at the free throw line...I think that is a Star 1A type player. He's close. If he becomes a better playmaker setting up teammates as well you're talking MVP superstar level. THIS is why Jalen over Mobley was the right call. Even if Mobley ended up a better player, Mobley didn't project to have this high of an upside even if he was a safer bet to be a really good player.
You weren't comparing age, style, of efficiency. So what the heck are you comparing? Kevin Martin was a player that focused on deceiving defenses by drawing fouls and jumping into defenders. He hardly had any athleticism, his handles weren't great, and he couldn't get to the basket consistently. He was a good stats player that could not lead you to that many wins. He would of been a good 2nd or 3rd player in his career but unfortunately was put in a position to be the main guy since he didn't play with super talented rosters. I don't see any parallels, but maybe you just aren't doing a great job at conveying what you mean. I don't mean that as a jab at you, I just don't understand the comparison at all.
I've always believed that Jalen has a higher ceiling than Mobley while Mobley had a higher floor. However, Mobley surprised me by significantly improving his shooting this season. His efficiency is higher than last year (which was already quite high) at a higher volume. I never thought he would be a great offensive player. Maybe this is his ceiling. If he can sustain this offensive production together with his defensive presence, he can be the #2 or #1B guy on a championship team.
Idiots complain about the 4th of Cavs game without realizing the Cavs were in zone - meaning C PF/SF are the scoring options PG/SG initiate the play with Alpi in middle of zone
This is sort of like the Klay Thompson versus Harden discussion I even started one of these..... Harden is by design better than Klay but he couldn't do what Klay does in his role, nor did he come close to it. The Specialist vs Jack of all trades
And a narcissist to boot. Do you know how a bbs works? The most recent reply in the forum is on the top.
It’s just that simple hunh? No matter that there is a PG he is playing with. A center that has similarities with Jokic with a penchant for creating. Or a 4th pick in the draft that was scouted pre draft to perhaps have PG qualities and just got a triple double the last game. The team makeup is great everyone is creating for others. If Jalen was on a more typical team I’m sure he would have about 5 assists per game or so.
Maybe the right answer is there is no wrong pick at the no 2 slot in the 2021 draft. Whether you chose Cade, Jalen or Mobley you will end up with a young stud.
That dude never heard of Kobe or Jordan. Not saying Jalen is as good as Kobe, but weird AF to say a scorer cant be no 1 option.
I am not a big fan of 'archetype' discussions and i didn't watch Mobley a lot but I just don't think you can have a (good) contender by paying mobley max money. No playmaking, not much of creation, the offensive efficiency's sustainability is questionable and I'd rather bet on green than mobley. his floor might be higher but nba is not a game of floors. Even if green's top performances are occasional, they are more valuable than the consistent better than average performance(at max money) if green can do it at playoff level.
I am no Mobley fan. I never thought his offense would improve after three seasons of non-progress. But he is definitely a max player. He might not have been worth it a year ago. But now if you didn't sign him with that contract, he was going to bolt and teams would line up to sign him. My point was, writing Mobley off as "his type won't amount to stardom" is as wrong as writing off guys like Sengun, Green, and Thompson, even Smith.
They are all so young, I remember that Jalen Brunson really exploded onto the scene when he was like what ....25-26 ish? I expect the next 2 Draft Classes yielding high level All Stars......then we'll have discussions of who is a better All Star on our hands in the next 5 years. Every one of Chet, Dub and Shai could become or is MVP caliber at their highest, that is what you are working with these days.
Issue with Mobley is that he's a genuine tweener. He doesn't play big and has no outside game. Like a worse Jabari Smith Jr. Jalen was the right call and if we did it over again and did not take Jalen, I'd much rather have gone with Suggs or Wagner there over Mobley. Amen blocking him while being 5 inches shorter is sort of everything you need to know about him. Jalen at 38% from 3 is a genuine All-Star. Jalen at 38% and sound defense (it has tapered off these last few games which he needs to clean up) is a championship level piece. Combined with Amen Thompson and Sengun the Rockets would have a championship level core there. Amen's presence makes Jalen inherently more dangerous. Either can drive to the rim and finish and both do it in different ways. Hoping for a big Jalen game today because we'll need it.
