He can't grasp that almost half Jalen Greens shots were from 3. As designed by Udoka's system. 45.5% of his shots were from 3
Via stats.nba.com there were 51 “guards” to attempt at least 100 total “mid range” shots over the 23/24 season. Green was tied for 36th out those 51 in “mid range’’ FG%
Just an fyi (anyone) Celtics players from 3 [ % of FGA by Distance ] 23/24: Tatum..........42.7% of his shots are from 3 (6.7 3PA) Jaylen Brown....35.4% of his shots are from 3 (5.9 3PA) D White...........59.0% of his shots are from 3 (6.8 3PA) Jrue..................46.7% of his shots are from 3 (4.7 3PA) Horford.............61.6% of his shots are from 3 (4.0 3PA)
I specifically said he’s right up there with his peers and some of the best guards in the league at 39.7%. Either better or similar numbers in terms of 1-3% difference. Here’s some notable names on this list: Derozan 43% Brunson 42% Doncic 43% Edwards 35% Fox 37% Curry 41.5% Lillard 40.8% Maxey 35.1% Simons 36.1% Vassel 40.3% There are 22 players with at least 200 3PA ahead of Steph curry in 3pt % in 23-24 having anywhere from 1-6% higher 3 pt% than him. Is he still up there with some of the best players in the league? Absolutely. But again you can look at the glass half empty or full.
Other cherry picked players also being bad at a thing does not make your boyfriend good at that thing.
Again that’s your own definition of bad. Completely arbitrary. What makes you an authority on what’s good or bad? You keep using those words “bad”, “terrible”, “sucks”. Well who are you? You certainly have a big mouth for a nobody. You don’t even understand the concept of a midrange shot. You never have any in game analysis and i can tell by what you say you are lost every time you watch a Rocket game but then scramble to look at metrics and box scores. Lmao please change your screen name bobby.
Ok. I thought you meant his mid range FG% was among the best in the league when what you meant was that other players who are considered very good also are not very good mid range shooters.
Again what’s considered good? How many guards with at least 100 FGA are shooting over 43% mid range? Just as in the Curry example I illustrated. How many guys were shooting over 41% threes? Does that mean everyone 41% and under suck? These are some of the best guards in the league shooting 35-43% mid range.
Never said that.your mind is made up of what you regard as good but you can’t even clearly articulate what good is. You criticize but never illustrate what a right on court decision looks like. You cite metrics you barely understand and make conjecture filled statements on what’s good or bad. At least have a foundation of knowledge to draw from instead of bold declarations with nothing to support them. That’s called judgement. Again it’s all in your mind lmao your mind your mind is shi+
What is the average for his peers - starting 2 / combo guards league wide? On the surface, 39.7% doesn't sound very good.
What I regard as good is scoring that is at or better than league average efficiency. The league average PPP was 1.153.... that means you'd have to shoot nearly 58% from midrange to even make it a league average efficiency play. It's one of the worst shots in basketball, a shot almost no one is good enough to be taking, and Jalen is really bad at it.
Don’t know. Someone will have to crunch those numbers. My premise was comparing him to his peers and some of the best guards in the league including Rocket fan favorite Ant man.
Almost nobody in the league is good enough to shoot a lot of mid range shots, save embiid and maybe a few others. Part of why ant isn’t very efficient is his long 2s, which he is AWFUL at.
27 of those 51 guards had a mid range FG% above 43% last year. 18 of those 51 guards had a mid range FG% above 45% last year. The best of the best among those 51 guards were in the high 40% to very low 50% range. ‘There are only a select group of players in the league who should be allowed to legitimately feature the mid range shot heavily. No player should completely abandon it but being “good” enough probably starts at about that 43% area at the very minimum. I wouldn’t say Jalen sucks as a mid range shooter, but you couldn’t call it good or very good eiter. If it’s going to be any kind of feature of his game moving forward he will either have to get much better at it or he will have to get much better elsewhere to offset the lower mid range percentage. Clearly some very good players have found ways to have efficient seasons while being not so great mid range shooters
Perhaps your search premise and filters are different. My premise was starting guards in the league with at least 100 FGA for a total of 48 with 24 above 43%. The list isn’t completely accurate as it counted Dillon Brooks, Deandre Hunter, Jalen Williams etc as guards. Still there are data gaps in terms of what the avg is but point is he is right there at 40% among some notable players launching at least 100 midrange shots as the original discussion was that he needs to focus and really work on his 3 pt shooting to dustinguish between a 3 pt jumpshot vice mid range jumpshot.
The mid-range is something that will open up some in the playoffs when teams lock in, as we saw over and over with CP3. Post-up players are also more valuable. Hell, an inverted offense is also a luxury as we saw with Adelman. Would be freaking sweet If Jalen & Alperen check off both of those boxes for us eventually. We could have a super dynamic and unpredictable playoff offense, and we already have a bunch of developing dawgs that will wreak havoc on defense… I still think there is a universe where Jalen Green and Alperen Sengun both go bonkers this year, get max deals, and then we surround them with a combination of elite young talent and salty vets. We are not as far behind OKC as some people think.
Setting the minimum at 43% is too low. Much more efficient to pass to a teammate or might as well have taken a slightly contested 3. Jalen shoots really well on midrange jumpers near the FT line. He should take less of everything else in the midrange till he has worked on it some more. It's terrible for his efficiency and he declined in FTA last season. More drives and fewer jumpers next season is important but Udoka has to create an offense where Jalen can thrive too.
