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Jalen Green will be the Rockets' Numero Uno

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by kpdark, Jan 2, 2024.

  1. daywalker02

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    The Original One should have been from the Lion KIng.

     
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    The jump in coaching, expectation and responsibility from AAU to G-League to Silas to Udoka is steep. I am encouraged that Udoka has held Green accountable and that he has responded.
     
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    Cam's a pretty big wing and you might get away with playing him at 3 and JG at 2 especially if Amen grows into a PG. Defensively Amen and Bari would be your wing defenders and Cam could end up being a good defender with time thanks to his size.

    So I could see a final roster of Amen/JG/Cam/Bari/Sengun.

    I don't see why it has to be JG vs Cam in the end. Tari would be losing out but...man's always hurt, I love him but every month he seems to have something bothering him.

    I was very hard on Green this month myself but I am proud to say I was always against benching him as that would have meant none of this improvement happens and he might have just pouted his way off the team.

    I think Cam and JG would make the game easier on eachother. Ideally I hope both are great, it's rare for a team to have TWO great scoring SGs.

    In fact the very idea is salivating on paper, you have two wings that can drop 30 along with a Center that can as well and then you have Bari/Tari/Amen all being complete team guys and dogs...yeah, that sounds like a very nice recipe if they can grow together and be happy in their roles...at least long enough to win something.
     
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    I would imagine that's how it worked with all players who did that in a Rockets or other team uni

    Its a reason why Stone said to grade the trade/rebuild 10 years from, Rockets have legit young NBA Foundation

    If folks can't accept that
    I think all fans feel that way about the players on their team

    If a player struggles, they lose their Joker mind and attack him, if a player does well consistently, they then begin to overrate and gloat about that player

    Tranquility is a 24/7/365 day job, being calm is powerful weapon
     
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    I couldn’t agree with you more and that’s a potent offensive lineup if all pan out.

    Two concerns though:

    1) A lot of things have to go right with development. Cam has to be a good defender and Jalen/Amen have to have respectable 3pt shots. A lot of ifs I think.

    2) Udoka prefers defense so I think he’ll go with Tari/Brooks at the 3 and only one wing scorer. This also helps reduce dribble penetration which helps our rim protector.

    I know that if it was an Adelman or MDA type of coach they’d be more amenable to the idea. Imagine the explosiveness with Amen/Cam/Jalen, would demolish people in an uptempo game.
     
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    It's still too early but Greens role isn't at the moment redundant with Cams. Cam is like way way below average in terms of passing and reading the offense. Shooting guards are typically combo guards these days that can run the offense as a secondary ball handler, Cam is very far from that.

    Green is also too much of a mystery box when it comes to performance. A good shooting guards needs a certain level of predictablity in their scoring, Green needs that reliability.
     
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    It is more that PGs are turning into shooting guards, that is why the term has been coined....

    That is how the term came to be.....but I appreciate shooting guards wanting to do PG duties.

    Jordan was never fully known for his passing but dude was triple teamed and made the outside pass.... averaged 6-8 assists at times.

    Whitmore has just to master the pass to the shooters when he is driving and all is well.

    That kick out should be the bread and butter of every Offense nowadays.


     
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    I think it's funny and no big deal, but I can see how there is little tolerance by the Rockets when it comes to any kind of mockery or criticism and keeping your media access, in a captive media market like Houston. When Fran Blinebury wrote critical articles (before the age of independent internet journalism), he got fired from the Chronicle not long thereafter.

    I really like Jackson and his work. He often asks more interesting questions than some of the people like Feigen and Iko.
     
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    they're not redundant. Cam can't run the point. Jalen is pushing the break and is basically a 1/2. Once Fred Van Fleet is gone Jalen will be running pick and roll with Alpi, hopefully.
     
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    Iko is acting, lets call it as it is.
     
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    Amen should be able to do that and someone like Tyus, a cheaper FVV but better at playmaking than Aaron Holiday.
     
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    i am hoping that amen will be able to do that, but in order to do that pick and roll, you need a 3 ball. i'm just saying cam and jalen aren't redundant. and i think jalen can guard the quicker 1's better.

    The point is, we are just not giving jalen green away. Guys like him don't just grow on trees. If we do trade him, it'll be at the right time for a better player or picks. We've invested too much in him to not gamble that he will eventually be a good shooter. Jalen and Whitmore can play together.
     
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    You are not giving him away but I would only give him the guaranteed version of the KPJ contract + 5-6 million more.

    Just get his agent to comply.

    I do have a problem with a full max.

    Most things are hard negotiation anyway, most players have a price tag. You only know when they go Restricted Free agency.

     
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  16. jcmoon

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    i don't think there's any way he'll get the full max unless he somehow becomes a good 3 point shooter before his next contract. We will gamble in restricted free agency and match. I think he'll probably get 25 million a year on his next contract.
     
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    Talking about gambling, don't they say gamble responsibly.

    The 3 point situation is not his strength but he found a way to play like young Russ.

    Shooting will Regress to the mean after couple of good seasons, it always does.
     
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    yup, russ, dearron fox. He'll easily get 20-25 million as an unrestricted. Teams like the knicks, etc. We just gave vanfleet 40 million to pry him away. some team will give him 25,not sure about 30. but then who knows? i desperate team could throw him the max cuz they need to put fans in the seat.
     
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  19. MystikArkitect

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    Bridges for Green + 24 FRP should still be on the table. Whitmore and Amen have made Green redundant and they're way more consistent at this stage of their careers than Green was.
     
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    I do imagine that daily, but for this year it should be off the bench. They can all still play 25 mins, develop together at the offensive pace they prefer and get their confidence playing against 2 units.
     
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