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Jalen Green will be the Rockets' Numero Uno

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by kpdark, Jan 2, 2024.

  1. Ancient Moabite

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    Don't know you at all, but you speak hoops like you actually have played some ball on some level (and took it serious)

    I could be wrong about that.......but what you speak on is pretty much the gospel n on point, raw no cut

    Props
     
  2. Ancient Moabite

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    That scrub/chucker just be teasing rockets nation into a joker dark knight type of insane madness

    This is what Ime is going to consistently unlock come oct/nov
     
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  3. Downtown Sniper

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    Mental toughness definitely aren't the words I'd use to describe someone who turns into one of the worst basketball players in the league when his confidence isn't 100%.
     
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    I’ve seen enough. Trade Jalen for Dillingham.

    Reed and him are bros for life.
     
  5. NewAge

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    That raised my eyebrows, too. What mental toughness?
    You listen to Stone, you'd think the kid has been fighting in Ukraine...
    The guy has been collecting $10M per, going to fashion shows, knocking-up chicks from all kinds of age demographics, and mostly playing like crap...
     
  6. jim1961

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    I think some folks confuse athleticism with skill.

    Here is the definition of skill:
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/skill

    1
    a
    : the ability to use one's knowledge effectively and readily in execution or performance
    b
    : dexterity or coordination especially in the execution of learned physical tasks

    2
    : a learned power of doing something competently : a developed aptitude or ability

    Lets break this down.

    the ability to use one's knowledge effectively and readily in execution or performance
    Inconsistency is the opposite of readily.

    dexterity or coordination especially in the execution of learned physical tasks
    While Jalen possesses dexterity and coordination, he is the poster boy for his inability to execute.

    a learned power of doing something competently : a developed aptitude or ability
    Again, competent insinuates consistency as does developed.

    In conclusion, I would say his athleticism is way ahead of his level of skill. His inability to harness his athleticism into skill is the hurdle in front of him keeping him from reaching his potential.




     
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  7. chef0010

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    I’ve heard that will is broke and does twitter for money
     
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    I would do twitter for money if I could as well.
     
  9. fchowd0311

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    You are confusing the desire to pass first as skill.

    For example you probably believe Amen is more skilled because of the perception of "bball IQ".

    Amen can read the court quickly on things like a short roll.

    But Green is one of the most coordinated athletes in the league. He has quick skilled footwork and with Sengun and FVV, is one of the most skilled guys on the roster.

    He's more skilled than anyone of the core 6 outside of Sengun.

    Guys like Shaedon Sharpe are what you think Green is.
     
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  10. Yetti

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    Full of hate & the DEvil !!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  11. chef0010

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    It was just something I had heard.

    Scary poor.
     
  12. kpdark

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    Year 1:
    Pre All-Star
    14.6 PPG on 39-31-82
    Post All-Star
    22.1 PPG on 48-39-76

    Year 2:
    Pre All-Star
    21.8 PPG on 40-33-79
    Post All-Star
    23.0 PPG on 44-35-78

    Year 3:
    Pre All-Star
    18.0 PPG on 41-31-80
    Post All-Star
    22.8 PPG on 44-37-81

    FACT: Jalen Green has been extra-ordinarily bad for the first 2/3 of every season he has ever played in the NBA. March and April need to be taken with a huge grain of salt...

    That said, he has had to deal with Silas for 2 seasons and he had to learn how to play defense in season 3, where he did a MUCH better job.

    Season 4 is where it all comes together, baby!
     
  14. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I truly hope you are right....

    DD
     
  15. NewAge

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    Here's the thing about Silas: he was a horrible coach and the whole team/organization was a clown-show when he was here, HOWEVER, there is not much evidence that he was bad for player development. Sengun was obviously stunted, as Silas would just not feature him, but other than that????
    K.J. Martin looked like a legit NBA player under Silas, and cannot sniff any minutes elsewhere... Josh Christopher looked like something, at least in his rookie year, he can't get a job now. Garuba, same story, he had moments under Silas. Tate, Eason, Gary Bird: these guys came into the league and showed plenty of stuff under Silas.

    The Silas excuse for Green is pretty lame, IMO.
     
  16. Tom Bombadillo

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    Good lord me too. (But at least we have back-up options now...)
     
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    I assume they're speaking on him not giving up when things weren't going well and being able to kind of turn his season around

    I don't honestly know if Jalen's problem has to do with confidence--it's possible. I don't know what's going on between his ears. It could be any number of things that keep him from performing at a high level with any kind of consistency.
     
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    Jalen's inconsistency is so consistent, it's almost creepy.
     
  19. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    I agree with everything but I'll just add one note: Jalen Green had to learn EVERYTHING in season 3 - not just defense.

    We essentially inherited an underdeveloped HS player with 1 month of Bubble G League Basketball experience under Brian Shaw. For 2 seasons the culture and development was terrible. Barely any of the kids improved beyond their first few months. We basically instilled him with bad scoring habits and weren't even holding him accountable for bad defense.

    Udoka's job was to come in and fix his defense, jumper, finishing, shot selection, passing, turnovers and rebounding. That's a LOT of work. I would say Jalen has responded very well to the coaching so far and I see it continuing in that direction. This last post-ASB, he put up those numbers along with the best defense he's ever played in his life for a sustained 30-game period (at times better than league average). His passing and rebounding were good too. His leadership in picking things up when Sengun went down - he really inspired this group more than anyone would have expected (11-game winning streak).

    He has to bring it from the start of next season. He knows what he's capable of now and Udoka is also aware of how spaced the floor needs to be in a well-paced offense in order for Green to be able to do major damage to any defender.

    It's also his contract year and final opportunity to prove himself. I think we can expect that consistency next season. We'll see.
     
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  20. LikeMike

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    I have said it before: Jalen is the most frustrating player to root for. And these numbers show why. In his rookie season he was disappointing - until the all-star-break and all of a sudden he looked to be on an Antony Edwards trajectory.

    In his second season we all came down to earth - seems like his hot streak in his rookie season was only that, a hot streak. He might be able to score in bunches, but with bad efficiency. Well, after the all-star break he significantly upped his efficiency again.

    In his 3d year he finally has a real coach and a real team with a real PG and quality players all around - he has to be efficient again right? Wrong. At times he looked even worse. Guess he is just an inefficient chucker that can get hot. But wait, after the all-star game he is great again and even has s MVP calibre 11 game winning streak.

    So he has finally figures it all out, right? He just needed that time to learn under Udoka right? He surely will come out hot, it being a contract year as well, right?

    I really do hope we want to give him a max extension - and not that we have to make excuses for his bad play for a majority of the season again. He has all the tools, he has shown that he can bring it on the court - but he has also shown, that he doesn't bring it to the court for the majority of his time in the NBA. And thats frustrating.
     
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