Exactly - let the better man win, and we can all deal with the results, more than likely they will both be playing 30mins. DD
Actually Jalens first year out of HS was even worse than delayed due to Covid. It was like 15 games in a few weeks span. There was no time to develop in the shorten g league season. It was literally created as an afterthought solely because they knew that guys on the g league ignite would have been screwed otherwise. So I would argue that Jalen was setback way more than KPJ was due to covid
I think the point is that you are comparing a large sample to a small sample in a VERY bad situation. It's telling that you won't make the direct comparison because you know it shatters your narrative. Either way, with Udoka doubling down on how roles won't be given to players based on draft status, you'll have to hope Green gets A LOT better in a hurry.
People tend to forget this. We basically drafted Jalen Green as a HS player. You can say he was like a HS player with a 1 month of G League practice. If you look at the trajectory of successful HS players, Jalen's ahead of that but not too different. He got an unusually high volume of shots because, well, we sucked and the organization wanted to lose. He got a lot more shots than HS players (other than Lebron) are normally given or normally earn. Kobe and T-Mac couldn't earn more than 12 shots a game their first two seasons. If you had given them 14 and 17 shots like we gave Jalen, they would have looked really really really bad. They also had no idea how to play defense although they were on good teams where they could be hidden defensively and had larger wingspan than Green. If things had gone normally and we had a decent roster with some playable vets, Green would have taken closer to 10-12 shots per game his first two seasons and obviously his percentages would have been WAY higher and his turnovers way lower too. He would not have ever been scouted and guarded by the opponent's best defenders every night. It's been hell for this kid and he still did pretty good. I thought he'd have a big jump in year 2 but I did not anticipate how brutally Stone would make the team tank and play without ANY useful mentors, rim protectors or floor generals. That big jump is coming in year 3 instead. Unfortunate that it has to be on such a tight schedule, but the way it worked out this is really Green's last chance to establish himself as a more efficient star scorer. Very unusual path, I can understand why people feel the way they do about him.
Green season did get cut due to Covid, G League had to shut down, so they both went thru that difference is KPJ is the reason why he bounced between G League/bench/starter minutes, because of how he acted with Cavs, so if he was that guy they would have treated him as such, even K Love said KPJ was the most talented young player on that team, so his game should have done the talking rather from a starting or bench role, but they traded the ultra talented guy for like a 55th pick or something of that nature, treated him like he was a scrub asset/player Jalen was done even worse as a rookie as Silas told him to go camp in the corner while Wood/KPJ and to lesser extent Gordon figure out what they want to do, 2nd year Jalen handled the ball more and had to play with those same scrubs that you claim KPJ did and going off remarkable super incredible TS% first 3 seasons, KPJ was one of those said scrubs until he improved on it during his 4th season, which is nice and typical of pretty much all players around that stage, as most likely it will happen with Green after 4th season complete if not then move on from him, we shall see
It’s funny y’all have to keep running behind KPJ past incidents but somehow he still the better shooter, ball handler, playmaker, and defender while being the 14th most doubled team player in the league Jalen needs 25 shots to score 30 and would FOLD if handed the responsible of PG That’s all I’m saying
Its even funnier that you mentioned how he got screwed over in his past situations which stem from his OWN past incidents, I only mention it to show how HE did that to himself, not using it to prop up others over him And you are using better as its some big wide gap, If you think KPJ is a 82 overall, then Green is 80, that's not a wide gap Usually players need shots to get points, so maybe Green should chuck away and avg 25 shots to get his 30 points, so at least you would be accurate in that personal opinion of yours And I didn't realize KPJ was even doubled that much, it seems he would more so just drive into a double/triple team in the lane and toss up a flashy And1 circus (horse) shot Based on eye test it seem Green would get the other teams best perimeter defender and most team D attention with Sengun, which that would usually mean the other team respects/fears that said player when doing that But I don't know much, just a fly on the wall viewpoint
KPJ didn't have to figure out the league with KPJ trying to figure out how to play PG. And KPJ is a 3% better shooter than Jalen. He only averaged 2 more assists than him and that's while having the ball in his hands most of the time. KPJ is heading into his 5th season as an NBA player. Jalen is heading into his 3rd. You better hope a significant jump is coming for KPJ at some point, because Jalen Green being two years younger with two less years of experience is right on his heels. If they both remain guppies fighting for crumbs at the bottom some big fish is going to eventually come and eat both of them up anyways.
I'm saying Green is better after yr 2 and currently Porter needs to prove he's not going to let his emotions get the best of him regularly.
You're always insistent on comparing Jalen now to what KPJ was in a small sample bad situation in Cleveland rather than comparing them now. You know how poorly that comparison would go.
yeah, exactly that guy. Second team All-NBA defense team, key cog on the team with second best record in the West. You guys are ridiculous with these stats on a trash team. Christian Wood was our stat leader last year, now the Mavs will let him go for nothing… Green is probably the worst,laziest, most disinterested player on D in the entire league, he’s a net negative on the floor for one of the worst teams in the league.
https://cleaningtheglass.com/stats/player/4865/onoff#tab-team_efficiency This seems like fake news on your part. Damn 95 percentile in improving team scoring efficiency on the court. For a 20 year old that's great.
